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mandraks
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sounds like an easy trade to make. Plenty of people with 5.5 chrome wheels looking for stock 15s
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Travis Woodard
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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I can't believe how expensive stock rims are getting. And that looks like a nice set you won't have any trouble selling them.
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GTV
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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Long story short, last week I got a free wheel 
Original paint, solid, just one ding in the lip that can easily be pushed out. It is dated 12/63. That got me thinking, I know early 64's still used 15's, when was the switch made to 14's? This must be one of the last production 15" wheels I reckon?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:46 am Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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| GTV wrote: |
| Original paint, solid, just one ding in the lip that can easily be pushed out. It is dated 12/63. That got me thinking, I know early 64's still used 15's, when was the switch made to 14's? This must be one of the last production 15" wheels I reckon? |
Yes, it does sound like one of the last normal production ones made, ignoring any dealer replacement ones made later.
Kinda interesting in a Bus nut way, sort of like the 1-2/1955 15" wheels when Buses were still using 16s.
From the 15" wheel FAQ thread:
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| On December 19, 1963, chassis # 1222026 (August 5, 1963, chassis # 1145427 for 1 ton models), VW went to a 14" wheel, size 14x5.00. |
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GTV
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:43 am Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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| EverettB wrote: |
| GTV wrote: |
| Original paint, solid, just one ding in the lip that can easily be pushed out. It is dated 12/63. That got me thinking, I know early 64's still used 15's, when was the switch made to 14's? This must be one of the last production 15" wheels I reckon? |
Yes, it does sound like one of the last normal production ones made, ignoring any dealer replacement ones made later.
Kinda interesting in a Bus nut way, sort of like the 1-2/1955 15" wheels when Buses were still using 16s.
From the 15" wheel FAQ thread:
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| On December 19, 1963, chassis # 1222026 (August 5, 1963, chassis # 1145427 for 1 ton models), VW went to a 14" wheel, size 14x5.00. |
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Thanks for the confirmation!
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gunbab
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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My buswheels painted in pearlwhite. First sandblasted and then in epoxy.
3 x KPZ and 1 crowfeet 1/1956.
Looks like new now. |
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mandraks
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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looking good. Did you not want the usual silverwhite?
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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Hit those lug faces with a wire wheel so they don't loosen up on you.
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CaLiBus
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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| gunbab wrote: |
My buswheels painted in pearlwhite. First sandblasted and then in epoxy.
3 x KPZ and 1 crowfeet 1/1956.
Looks like new now. |
Not sure if you know this but Crowfeet bus wheels have a longer open slot. Go with one more KPZ to match the others. I can easily tell with the caps on what wheel is crowfeet in your pic.  |
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gunbab
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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| mandraks wrote: |
| looking good. Did you not want the usual silverwhite? |
No I want something different. Silverwhite is for met to white.
Dont like the silverwhite color,
My bumpers are also pearlwhite. |
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gunbab
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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| srfndoc wrote: |
| Hit those lug faces with a wire wheel so they don't loosen up on you. |
How will i do that? do you have a photo of a example. |
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gunbab
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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| CaLiBus wrote: |
| gunbab wrote: |
My buswheels painted in pearlwhite. First sandblasted and then in epoxy.
3 x KPZ and 1 crowfeet 1/1956.
Looks like new now. |
Not sure if you know this but Crowfeet bus wheels have a longer open slot. Go with one more KPZ to match the others. I can easily tell with the caps on what wheel is crowfeet in your pic. |
The search for a crowfeet or KPZ is still going on. But not that easy to find overhere. |
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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| gunbab wrote: |
| srfndoc wrote: |
| Hit those lug faces with a wire wheel so they don't loosen up on you. |
How will i do that? do you have a photo of a example. |
Remove paint from the ball-seat where the lug bolt sits... so there is metal to metal contact... not metal to paint.
Paint is generally thinner than powdercoating... and may not be a problem for your epoxy paint.
See this for example, with powdercoating:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7938441#7938441
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gunbab
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 1:52 am Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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| easy e wrote: |
| gunbab wrote: |
| srfndoc wrote: |
| Hit those lug faces with a wire wheel so they don't loosen up on you. |
How will i do that? do you have a photo of a example. |
Remove paint from the ball-seat where the lug bolt sits... so there is metal to metal contact... not metal to paint.
Paint is generally thinner than powdercoating... and may not be a problem for your epoxy paint.
See this for example, with powdercoating:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7938441#7938441 |
Could i leave the epoxy on the lug holes? Otherwise i think it starts to rust. |
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easy e
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 2:28 am Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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It's subjective. Only you know how thick it is.
If it's only your own safety at risk... you can do whatever you like.
If you risk the safety of others... you should at least consider the potential impact before proceeding.
If your wheel bolts come loose... you may jam a wheel up into the body or wreck with a loved one in the bus... or wreck into someone else.
Then how much will you enjoy your decision to leave the epoxy?
Then again, it might be thin coat & you don't need to worry about it.
Just do whatever you think is best.
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:50 am Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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| gunbab wrote: |
| easy e wrote: |
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| srfndoc wrote: |
| Hit those lug faces with a wire wheel so they don't loosen up on you. |
How will i do that? do you have a photo of a example. |
Remove paint from the ball-seat where the lug bolt sits... so there is metal to metal contact... not metal to paint.
Paint is generally thinner than powdercoating... and may not be a problem for your epoxy paint.
See this for example, with powdercoating:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7938441#7938441 |
Could i leave the epoxy on the lug holes? Otherwise i think it starts to rust. |
The paint might come off as soon as you tighten the lug bolts, from the twisting motion of installing them.
Make sure you check the lug bolt torques after you drive a little bit.
Or after you drive a little, remove all the lug bolts, make sure there is no loose paint under them, and reinstall and re-torque them.
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: 15 inch bus wheel |
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| Thanks guys. I will do that. Dont want any accicdents. Safety first. |
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