Transmission makes noise when letting off clutch in 2nd gear

[sodbuster]

[Wildthings]

[kowpeki]

Hard to believe but we are still working on this project. We've had some personal life distractions. We have a new question. Is the following shift rail play normal or acceptable?

https://youtu.be/FOljHPeetjc
https://youtu.be/6iBU8Zu5HG8
https://youtu.be/B8McVVlePyY
https://youtu.be/uYIamVuyE44
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1979 Bus
VIN: 2292134777
Engine Code: EC004375 (1974 Porche?)

[bigbore]

there is no measurement for it you have to know it by feel the manual has no reference for it. Even rebushed ones have some play.

from what I see in those way too short vids that's too much you also have to worry about the main bearing hole it (more offen then not) is loose.
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[bigbore]

ok I just a preview of this thread and one thing put the camera DOWN less is more second you pinon bearing is shot just by the pinon ware and that gear machined spot on the gear carrier housing.
third and this point I will DRIVE home the mauals say nothing (like many things you need to know) the points on the ingaugers are NOT the main thing to look at its the flanks (the sides of those teeth) there are three groups of three teeth that are wider then the others THATS where you start to look for ware I just did a bus trany where the genus that rebuilt it thought that taking a chisel and busting off those three groups of three is how you fix it then the points those points can be worn down and the gear will work fine just can be harder to shift into at times. I dont have time today post photos with circles and arrows to point it out Iam on the road but in short there is a reason there only a few guys (or shops ) that do tranys and a thousand shops that do engines it not that easy.
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[kowpeki]

Thanks for the input bigbore. I had a hard time reading your last post, but I think I get the gist of it. I did replace the pinion bearing, pinion shaft/gear and ring gear. I also replaced 1st and 2nd gears, 1-2 slider and hub, 3-4 slider and hub and reverse gear. I do appreciate the advice!
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1979 Bus
VIN: 2292134777
Engine Code: EC004375 (1974 Porche?)

[bigbore]

ya sorry I type alittle funny as long as you got it.

I need to do a build on this site I have basically a new 1971 bus trany to put together the only used parts are the R/P the diff and housing all else is new NOS maybe Everett will make it a sticky.
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[kowpeki]

New question. We (my son and I) have been using the gear marking compound method for determining the proper depth for the new pinion gear. That has resulted in a few installations and un-installations of the pinion bearing in the case and now we notice it is no longer a press fit. The next step as I understand it is to get a steal pinion bore sleeve. The question is where does one go for that? Can any good machine shop add the bore sleeve? Can the machine shop provide the bore sleeve too? Or do I have to buy one from some VW tranny shop?
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1979 Bus
VIN: 2292134777
Engine Code: EC004375 (1974 Porche?)

[bigbore]

that can be done but not just by anybody it highly specialized Steve Kent has had it done he may Q in here and talk about it.
contact Weddle for that work they also have sleeved gear carrier housings.
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[bigbore]

here you go this is the best place to get trany parts.
https://weddleindustries.com/
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[kowpeki]

Thank you, sir. I will call Weddle tomorrow and see what I can learn.
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1979 Bus
VIN: 2292134777
Engine Code: EC004375 (1974 Porche?)

[kowpeki]

Weddle says they do the steel sleeve in batches and they currently don't have enough to do a batch. My alternative is to buy one of their already sleeved cases for $495. I'd estimate we have $1200 in this rebuild. Our options:

- Use the current case with the not so press fit of the pinion bearing and see how many years we get out of it.
- Suck up an buy the $495 case from Weddle

I hate to ask it (preparing for backlash), but is there some other, better than nothing (but not the best), way to secure that pinion bearing to the case?
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1979 Bus
VIN: 2292134777
Engine Code: EC004375 (1974 Porche?)

[alman72]

IF he had enough steel to do a batch, what would it have cost? 2/3 of the case? 1/2?
my point is, you allready dropped bank into the build, so dont cheap out now only to have it crap out 2 years from now.
Maybe you could find a 100 dollar CL trans that you could use that MAY be better than what you have, but anything cheap is probably a gamble.
fast
right
cheap
pick any two.

[bigbore]

I will have a loose case when I get back to my shop Iam out on a 600 mile house call working on a ghia today she hit 85 on a test drive first time out for 15 years after a barn fell on it. I think I will be back in a day or 2 you can have the case just cover shipping.
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[kowpeki]

[bigbore]

well I got that trany apart and then I remembered the this trany is a early vanagon they are the same buy one thing the fill plug hole is not used on the early vanagon so it would have to be drilled and taped out so I went and looked in the barn heres what I found.

do you see something special about this case?

yep its got a steel sleeve so if I give ypu this case I will ask a favor from you someday and you must do it.

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[kowpeki]

Wow, you are awesome, man! I feel like part of the family now If you ever need help getting something from Texas to Alaska, I'll do all I can to help.
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1979 Bus
VIN: 2292134777
Engine Code: EC004375 (1974 Porche?)