Montehms 67 Prairie Square

[MonT3]

Today I spent my day down at a local charity car show. A lot of great cars showed up. Lots of American Muscle which brings out some super cool rides along with some imports. The day was great and I had a great time watching folks take time to look at my square and also answered a lot of question in relation to the car and trailer. All in all my favorite time was spent talking to the older folks about trips they'd taken to places as the car's setup reminded them of road trips taken in the past. Here are the pics of the finishers of the show. My Square was the only import making the final 4.
Best of Show...

1St...

2nd...

3rd... HAHAAAA matching trophy!

4th...

Me and my Wagen...

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MonT3
67 Squareback
64 Squareback
63 Squareback
Engine rebuild
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[Bobnotch]

Congrats Monte, you and your combo deserved it.

It looks like there was a good turn out there. Was this a professionally judged show? Or peoples choice?
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Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120

[Dlglobal1]

Congrats!!! Thanks for the comments on my thread, coming from you I'm humbled!! Your car and trailer combo are truly amazing.
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Cheers, David
1969 Bug
1972 Bug
1968 Mercedes 230 "Heckflosse"
1970 Type 3 Fastback 1600 TA L60D

[MonT3]

[MonT3]

[MonT3]

Few more pics...

Now I can close the loop on a few small projects.
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MonT3
67 Squareback
64 Squareback
63 Squareback
Engine rebuild
Trailer rebuild

[Bobnotch]

[LOW N SLOW66]

Couldn't agree more with bobnotch, what a beautiful car! That blue looks phenomenal with the black and the white walls great job man!
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[bobnorman]

Congrats on the award- well deserved!

That whole set up you have going on there with the trailer looks just perfect. Very nicely done, and I love this shot with all the period accessories.

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[MonT3]

Thanks for the compliments gents. Sincerely appreciate it. Yesterday was spent cleaning the garage then had some free time so I took the square back out to the park where I decided to take a few pics of the car with some of my accessories out. Hope you like them...

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63 Squareback
Engine rebuild
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[260KMN]

Nice

[MonT3]

Last couple of days were spent chasing down some leaks. The #1 valve had a constant ticking going on so with that I decided to pull the motor and address the issues as well as clean it up... Son Michael took some good pics

- Pulled the rockers off and checked and re-torqued the heads
-Torqued the rocker assembly
- Valve adjustments all the way around
- New valve cover gasket
- New oil cooler seals (clearly was leaking)

- Cooling flaps removed, yes the whole assembly was pulled. The thermo extended itself out of the bracket which had happened before. Luckily the pushrod tube wasn't affected...

Since the tins were off, they got a good cleaning. After work today I'll be finishing up by adding the manifold and carbs, linkage and exhaust. I found a nice lower piece to my air cleaner with a good factory decal. Will be cleaning it up and possibly swapping that out for the one I'm using.
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MonT3
67 Squareback
64 Squareback
63 Squareback
Engine rebuild
Trailer rebuild

[MonT3]

This past break was spent putting my motor back in the car and finding some parts or a friend’s project. I had the motor in the car and was working the timing and carb sync. Wasn’t happy with it. After shutting the car off and taking break, I noticed a single oil leak coming the main seal area. I had to take a step back and think where I wanted to go with it. Got a hold of a buddy and secured a main seal and yesterday I pulled the motor back out and replaced the main seal. I will admit it was intimidating to start but after some encouragement, I thought what an easy process to getting that piece replaced. Hopefully that will be it when it comes to leaks.
I’m picking up my buddy’s run stand as mine's not complete yet and hope to get the motor dialed in hopefully within the next few days. Looking forward to that experience.
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MonT3
67 Squareback
64 Squareback
63 Squareback
Engine rebuild
Trailer rebuild

[Bobnotch]

[MonT3]

I placed the motor back in the car after running it on stand. Have it timed (as I thought), carbs airflow adjusted and sync'd. After installing it back into the car and wiring it back up, It fired up easy just like on stand. got ready to take it for a spin down the block and as I pulled up the clutch pedal and gave it some gas, it began to sputter and didn't have any power it. I backed in back into the driveway and placed the timing light back on it to see if things were in set proper. Pulled the blue book back out and began to look it over. The one things that is different between the book and my motor is the markings on the belt pulley. I've included a pic of what I have in there now. I've marked the first two as I believe it's 7.5 and 10. The other two are the dark ones. The red to the far right is the marking where I believe 28⁰ is at...

I'm trying to find out if the pulley is a 66/67 type3 or a later yr or a type4?. I don't know the settings for the markings. I'm at a loss as I've done pretty much everything I can think of from reading the manual and talking to a buddy here. This pulley's got me frustrated as it has to be throwing my timing off.
Also, I tried to remove the distro shaft (with the proper tool) as it's in the wrong position when #1 is at TDC. What's the secret to removing that piece so I can try to get it to the correct position?

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Oh, forgot to add, I have a leak coming from two locations.

One is coming from the #1 side it's a bolt hole that is under the larger bolt holding the upper side of the case together. I took the nylon type insert bolt off and replaced it with another from a rebuilt kit I have. It's not tightening all the way. Unsure what's going on with that. Next one is I believe to be the cap behind the flywheel. My buddy mentioned if it is the that cap, the case needs to be split to get that corrected. That 1776 build is looking better and better.
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MonT3
67 Squareback
64 Squareback
63 Squareback
Engine rebuild
Trailer rebuild

[Clatter]

Pulling the distributor drive can totally drive you nuts.

Take a look at one free from a motor, and it will make sense;
There is a little under-cut 'shelf' clearanced around the ID of where the washer sits.
If the washer gets anywhere's out of centered (very likely) the little clearance hangs up on the washer.
Resist the urge to pull hard in your trying to free the drive (too late for that, huh? ) because you can bugger up the soft brass worm gear that drives the distributor drive..
Any burrs on that soft brass gear make a spot where the spark timing can be inaccurate, plus it beats up your distributor.

Also, if the washer falls off into the case, you're hosed..

This distributor drive system is the Achilles heel of our motors it seems sometimes.

That puller tool can actually work sometimes, In My Experience, it's more often a cruel joke.

Any time someone turns a motor over without the flywheel shims or a distributor in place, it can also bugger up that brass gear.
Chewed-up gears are actually pretty common in core motors I take apart.


Just another reason to get in there and do it right..

You have done such nice work on the rest of the car,
I'm sure the motor you build will certainly be more fitting.

Unlike bodywork, building a motor is actually kinda fun!
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[Bobnotch]

I normally pull the fuel pump, it's rod, and the bakelite base the pump sits on first. If you look in the hole, you'll see why, as the dist drive has a ground spot above the gear for the pump push rod to ride on. That should help make it come out easier, but then like Steve said, more time than not it's a cruel joke kind of tool.

If the 2 washers fall off the end, use a small magnet, or some grease on a stick to get them out. The other option is complete tear down of the engine. You could try pulling the oil pump, but it'll probably just get you started on the tear down.
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Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120

[MonT3]

[MonT3]

[Clatter]

Oh, yeaah, mechanical fuel pump..
I remember those!

Haven't seen one in years..


You absolutely have to pull the whole pump assembly to get the distributor drive out.

However,
if what you want to do is get it going,
I'd leave it all well enough alone.
Unless your vacuum can is hitting something,
It doesn't matter at all how your distributor is clocked.

Go grab a 009, and it will 100% never matter how it's clocked. No can.

But,
It ran like it was before, right?
The timing light doesn't lie, or care how the distributor body is clocked..

You can move the pin that holds the drive 'shoe' on the bottom of the distributor 180' FWIW..

Timing being off makes it run odd, but won't make it run Not At All, unless it's waaaaay out.

I'd be looking elsewhere.
Start with grounds.
Then wires,
Then coil,
Then fuel delivery?

?
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Bus Motor Build

What’s That Noise?!?