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schmedley
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 Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:27 am Post subject: door hinge swap |
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| any one had luck changing door hinges. i have a 63 square, needs a new driver door, has 3 bolt hinge. hard to get. someone not too far away has a door 2 bolt with the middle barrel in the right place and i think the right size. can the pins be knocked out and the hinge on the car side be swapped? |
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axeman569
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Location: Arizona
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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| If you search in the classifieds, you can find hinges to convert to a later door with a 2 bolt hinge. Some later doors (68 and later I believe) have different outside handles. There may be other differences as well. |
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emersonbiggins
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Location: Nebraska
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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| schmedley wrote: |
| any one had luck changing door hinges. i have a 63 square, needs a new driver door, has 3 bolt hinge. hard to get. someone not too far away has a door 2 bolt with the middle barrel in the right place and i think the right size. can the pins be knocked out and the hinge on the car side be swapped? |
Did it work?
I have the same issue. |
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6T5 square
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Location: Dover, DE
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:56 am Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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If your interested I have a pair of doors ( actually I have a pair of 2bolt and a pair of 3 bolt doors for sale. I'm in central jersey. PM me if interested in the whole doors
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65 square 1500S (weezer) sold but always on my mind
60 beetle (Ned)
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emersonbiggins
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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Swap started. I got the hinge pins out of the two bolt door
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HenrikL
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Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:21 am Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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| Was it easy to get the hinge pins out? On Type 1 they are sometimes very difficult to get out. |
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emersonbiggins
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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The pins on this door came right out.
Now I am having trouble getting the old door off the car to complete the change. |
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emersonbiggins
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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The old door was junk but I did get the door off and the pins removed.
Next is assembly.
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:05 am Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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The old door was junk but I did get the door off and the pins removed.
Next is assembly.
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WOW, you got lucky in that both doors were set up similar to make the swap easier. Even the colors are close. 
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
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emersonbiggins
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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Here is a picture of the doors from the outside and the good door with the hinge pins ready to be pressed the last little way in.
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leec
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:14 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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Should there be a washer between the 2 hinge parts, as shown in the picture?
Lee |
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emersonbiggins
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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The two hinge door had washers but not the three hinge. I put washers in the the hinge pieces I put on because they were a little loose.
The best part I found to help get the hinges to come a part was that a flywheel dowel pin fits right down the hole to get the pin to start coming out. |
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leec
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| Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:04 am Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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Thank you for the reply.
I'm just assembling nos hinges in nos doors and there was a little spring washer in the pack and wondered if it should go between the hinges. Mine are notch (3 bolt)
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emersonbiggins
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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These are the only screws I could find. Does anyone know where to get older type 3 door screws?
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axeman569
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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| Check with ISP West. They have both early allen head bolts and later screws. |
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emersonbiggins
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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| axeman569 wrote: |
| Check with ISP West. They have both early allen head bolts and later screws. |
I looked on ISP West and the screw looked the same as the ones I got at the hardware store here. Need washers to cover the same surface area. |
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:20 am Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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| emersonbiggins wrote: |
| axeman569 wrote: |
| Check with ISP West. They have both early allen head bolts and later screws. |
I looked on ISP West and the screw looked the same as the ones I got at the hardware store here. Need washers to cover the same surface area. |
Another option is the little bolts/screws that hold the drum to the hub on 66 to 73 models.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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| "Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
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| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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ataraxia
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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| Bobnotch wrote: |
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| axeman569 wrote: |
| Check with ISP West. They have both early allen head bolts and later screws. |
I looked on ISP West and the screw looked the same as the ones I got at the hardware store here. Need washers to cover the same surface area. |
Another option is the little bolts/screws that hold the drum to the hub on 66 to 73 models. |
That's literally the exact same part - same part number.
311 831 455
I bought flanged bolts because I got tired of the internal hex stripping out - I test fit one but haven't swapped them over yet.
https://www.mcmaster.com/#95735a412/=1dsuyga
McMaster has a flanged internal hex that's close but the flange is 18mm dia. where the original is 15.5mm dia.
https://www.mcmaster.com/#92137a634/=1dtxolp
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:27 am Post subject: Re: door hinge swap |
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Yeah, my son used some m8's from a Ford Taurus to bolt his doors on. They have a flange and have a 10mm head (cap screw).
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Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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