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grailoc Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2004 Posts: 1441 Location: FRANCE and now QUEBEC city
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cru62 Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 4117 Location: Margaritaville.....24/7
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Fitting 356 Oil filler into a 36hp engine - NEED HELP |
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I did that for an engine I'm building. I'll snap a pic of it when I get back home next week.
In the meantime I will try to describe what I did.
First I cut out two pieces of 3/16" aluminum plate to roughly match the shape of the mount for the filler. One got a stepped hole bored in it which matches the nut that attaches the stock filler to the block.
Then I made a second plate with a hole bored in it to fit over the mount for the filler base. There are holes to mount the filler through both fabricated plates using bolts.
I oriented the filler on the block so it was level and plumb and screwed in the special mounting bolt to the plate and attached it to the block. It is necessary to grind on the special bolt to clearance it. Just make sure you leave enough of the slot to remove it if you need to.
I contoured the two plates so that when everything is assembled it is smooth and blends with the mou on the filler. I'm undecided whether to paint the adapter black to make it blend in or polish it.
The one issue that I have now is that the dump tube wants to go through the rear tin in a different place than stock , so I will need to modify the tin. I think that would be easier than modifying the tube.
Sorry for the long winded response. When I get pictures it will all be clear, I promise.
Found a pic in my Gallery that shows the adapter sandwich, but not how the special nut is modified.-
Here's another one-
Sorry, I didn't realize that a 36hp oil fill is not threaded. _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
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Joshua B Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2004 Posts: 273 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Fitting 356 Oil filler into a 36hp engine - NEED HELP |
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I did it on mine. You can look in my gallery I may have a picture. Take an exhaust flange, weld two nuts on it to bolt to the oil filler. Then weld a tab with a hole in it to the flange where it can be bolted onto the case like stock. I think I may have welded a sleeve in the inside of the flange so it fit snug to the case and snug to the outside diameter of the oil filler insert into the case. I will have to take a look. PM me if you need more info and some pictures. |
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grailoc Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2004 Posts: 1441 Location: FRANCE and now QUEBEC city
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grailoc Samba Member
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Mr. OGPaint Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2010 Posts: 823 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Fitting 356 Oil filler into a 36hp engine - NEED HELP |
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I believe this is how Porsche attached the breather/filler on 2pc case engines _________________ https://instagram.com/mr.ogpaint
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grailoc Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2004 Posts: 1441 Location: FRANCE and now QUEBEC city
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grailoc Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2004 Posts: 1441 Location: FRANCE and now QUEBEC city
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GHIA Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 345 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Fitting 356 Oil filler into a 36hp engine - NEED HELP |
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Great job Jérome |
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56samba Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2015 Posts: 262 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Fitting 356 Oil filler into a 36hp engine - NEED HELP |
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Looks pretty good, a clever solution...
Thanks for the "input"
Just asking myself, what I can do to mount it on a pre56 engine without the drilled support on the case. Guess I should use a Pre A or stock VW oil filler? |
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ntngman Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2006 Posts: 22
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Fitting 356 Oil filler into a 36hp engine - NEED HELP |
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My contribution to this thread. Thank you for the ideas on how to make this happen. I didn’t want to drill into the case so for now till I think of another way I added a thick wire from the generator clamp bolt that holds the flange tight.
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Oldschool56 Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2011 Posts: 15 Location: Biberach
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Fitting 356 Oil filler into a 36hp engine - NEED HELP |
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Dolfke 53 Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2021 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Fitting 356 Oil filler into a 36hp engine - NEED HELP |
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Hey question do anyone nows dimensions of the oil breather
Want to make it myself .
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