Bosch headlight info

[krautclassicparts]

I have a few of the old Headlights with 5 Drainholes and of them is NOS and i made the Experience that the old,black Reflectorbuckets had no Stempits at all.
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[Ghia 1966]

R headlights for split the same size and dimensions as the ones used in the 1960s... I know there r different cosmetic and look wise but would they fit without modifications in fenders?! Also r front fenders the same from early 1950s to 1967?!
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[930]

I am a bit lost with the headlight identification so hence I am resurrecting this quite an old thread which I found using search...and apologies in advance if these lights appear to be 13 in a dozen 60's lights I don't know so hence I am asking...

Can anyone help me identifying these headlights? Both chrome rings have a 17mm long "Bosch" text written in 12 o'clock position. Adjusters in both rings are on 9 and 12 o'clock position.

Both lenses have a VW logo in 12 o'clock position and "Hella" on the bottom. The other lens has a large A and NL written on the bottom and number 44-10804. The other has a small A and NL on the left side of the lens and a number 41-10804 on the bottom.

Both reflectors have a text LE/YE 180x2A (1/5) and LE1801 A-K 1049.

[janerick3]

[930]

[930]

Found out that these are manufactured in 1958 as per the date codes. (found a link elsewhere on thesamba where the date codes were...)

This sounds right as the Bosch in the rings is smaller and the lenses are symmetrical.

[janerick3]

The lenses have been replaced at some point in the car's lifetime. The original lenses would have been Bosch symmetrics with the "script" Bosch name at the bottom.
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[AlanInMass54]

Sorry to dredge this back up. My car is a (mostly) December 52. I found these old Bosch headlights long ago. They're beat and missing parts. First are springs, screws, etc still available (wolfsburg west only shows parts for later assemblies), and second are they what should be in there?

I can always look for others but I had these and would be happy if I could make use of them.

[Hustlers67]

Are the sizes of the headlights different from the 50s to 60s? Can I fit the Porsche style light grilles on early 60s (sloping) headlights?

[RareAir]

[TheFop]

Hi Folks, Sorry for dragging up an old post but I just found these headlights in my stash of bits that came with a Beetle I bought a while ago, these have been in storage in a box for at least 15 years and likely longer.
The codes on the glass are 1305614001 and 1208 and they are symmetrical with a stylised Bosch script so from what I'm able to ascertain are likely early 50's Beetle or Pre A 356.
The reflectors don't have any writing on the back and are in really nice condition with just a bit of spidering under the finish but are very servicable.
There are two slightly different buckets, one is black/grey with the original codes including a VW sign and the other is just grey with no writing, both have 3 drain holes and are in pretty decent condition.
The chrome rings are very nice with a couple of tiny dents likely from a piece of gravel being flipped up and the screw tabs have very slight surface corrosion, however no Bosch markings.

The bulb holders/terminal connectors are Bosch based on the small Bosch logo and again nice condition bar a bit of dusty grime which appears to wipe off with little effort.

They came to me in pieces but I believe I have all the bits to put them back together.

So a couple of questions, are these likely to be early 50's or as the Bosch markings aren't on the rings, or reflectors are they likely to be parts from various periods to make a good set.
2nd question is what is a fair price for them if anyone was looking for a set? My Beetle is a New Zealand 67 so although these would be very cool they aren't the right lights for it and these may be able to help fund some of the cost for the paint on my 67.
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[Porsche904]

Bosch old script logo lenses marked NL A indicates 55-59 lenses, 3 hole buckets came after 53

[janerick3]

The reflectors appear to have been re-silvered at some point, so the date codes are lost.

However, Bosch lenses often, but not always, have a date code cast into the lip, at the 12 o'clock position. This code contains a Roman numeral (I-IV) for the quarter, followed by a letter for the year.
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[TheFop]

Thanks for the responses, I thought the old stylized Bosch script was until 57?

I've looked for the number and roman numeral at 12 o'clock on the lens but all I can see is something like 335, 538 or 535 but its hard to tell. based on the script and the roman numeral this doesn't make sense as they would be something like 1973 75 or 78 which they cant be because of the script.
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Rusty 61 RHD Karmann Ghia Coupe - Resto in progress....slowly
Stock 69 LHD Karmann Ghia Coupe - Driver
67 New Zealand Spec Beetle - Being rebuilt
63 New Zealand Spec Beetle - Going Baja!
86 T25 Westfalia - Family Fun car