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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51125 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Start by disconnecting both wires from the tail light and see if the fuse still blows. Or rig up a sealed beam and some test lights as Telford recommends to take the place of the fuse while testing, if it lights there's a short.
Also notice which circuit is shared by the license plate light (hint hint).
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:35 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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Spike0180 Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2015 Posts: 2269 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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I get it. But do know you have a burn spot in your harness and that may cause other issues. It would be a suspect down the road. And why is it there? Did you do it or a PO? Just thoughts. _________________ Brutis Patches Izabich: 1970 VW Transporter - 1776cc DP
Current State: Projects never truly end...
Location: Grosse Pointe, Michigan
Other cars: 2003 F150, 2003 Jetta GLI vr6-6sp
Sambastic: adj; the quality of being nit picky, elitist, expecting everyone to do things the way they believe is best with no regard to situation, "sambastic" |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Start by disconnecting both wires from the tail light and see if the fuse still blows. Or rig up a sealed beam and some test lights as Telford recommends to take the place of the fuse while testing, if it lights there's a short.
Also notice which circuit is shared by the license plate light (hint hint).
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Thank you busdaddy for sending me the wiring diagram. I kept on using it as a reference while searching for the short. _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Spike0180 wrote: |
I get it. But do know you have a burn spot in your harness and that may cause other issues. It would be a suspect down the road. And why is it there? Did you do it or a PO? Just thoughts. |
The wiring problems were already there when I bought this bus. By the looks of it this bus had been worked on by several restorers and mechanics in the past and they did not really put a lot of care in their handiwork…..and I am the lucky guy with limited restoration skills who has to figure out what the heck I need to do to untangle the mess that these previous guys did to this bus.
Since the rust problem was worse than the wiring problem, I decided to tackle the rust problem first before going through the wiring problem. _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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Spike0180 Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2015 Posts: 2269 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:57 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Whoop whoop! Test driving and problem shooting stage! Isn't it great!? I'm at this stage too. It's looking good and like your bus is coming right along _________________ Brutis Patches Izabich: 1970 VW Transporter - 1776cc DP
Current State: Projects never truly end...
Location: Grosse Pointe, Michigan
Other cars: 2003 F150, 2003 Jetta GLI vr6-6sp
Sambastic: adj; the quality of being nit picky, elitist, expecting everyone to do things the way they believe is best with no regard to situation, "sambastic" |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:12 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Spike0180 wrote: |
Whoop whoop! Test driving and problem shooting stage! Isn't it great!? I'm at this stage too. It's looking good and like your bus is coming right along |
Hi Spike0180
Yes sir, I do feel really good that I am in this stage now. I doubted before that I will ever reach this stage but with the help of good guys in thesamba forum I was able to keep on going with the restoration. I still have a long way to go but at least the bus is now a functional mode of transportation & a good source of personal delight during weekend cruise around the beach & parks.
The carburetor is still a problem because once in a while it would act up. I rebuilt it and cleared (I think) all the channels & gasoline passages with a carb cleaner & pressured air. I noticed that it works better after a warm up the engine for about 2 minutes before driving it. Yesterday I only warmed it up for 40 seconds and the bus struggled to pass 25MPH on a 50mph speed limit avenue. I might have to get a new carburetor eventually because the one I am using seemed to have an issue.
I still have to figure out how to get the turn signal lights to work. Electrical wiring is really not my forte and so I struggle through deciphering any wiring or short problem in the bus.
I am happy to hear that both our buses are on the same stage. I hope you get yours ready for the summer long drives _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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lmaoufle Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2015 Posts: 36 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:18 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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If you are talking about the turn signal indicator light (on the cluster) it is normal that they blink at the same time. If you really want them to blink independently search this forum some have change the wiring diagram to do so.
Last year I did have a short, I remove completely the dashboard, it tooks me one hour (taking my time enjoying the view ) but it allows me to better see the fuse box, all wires from the cluster, clean the 46 years dust and repaint the dash. I advice you to do so next time it is really not a tough job and make it really easy to mess with wires!
On the poptop I did not understand your latch trouble, how is your latch now ? mine looks like yours in your pics, you are missing the gasket that goes around the poptop and prevent air from coming inside.
Good job on the restoration, I really like your pictures based post |
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TomWesty Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2007 Posts: 3482 Location: Wyoming,USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:03 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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I have a relatively unmolested '71 and both indicators flashing when you use the turn signal lever is normal. Good job sorting out a wiring mess. _________________ If you haven't bled on them, you haven't worked on them.
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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This entry is to correct that entry I did back in June 12, 2017 where I turned around the front roof latch thinking that by making the latch face the back it would correct the space gap between the roof and the pop-top roof. Well, it seems that I made an error on that. The way it was before was already right. All I need to do was just do a little adjustment to the roof latch. Anyway, below are the pictures I took to correct the problem. Hopefully this time I did it the right way. If you see something that does not look right feel free to share your opinion/suggestion to me. I am all ears when it comes to opinions and suggestions.
_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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TomWesty wrote: |
I have a relatively unmolested '71 and both indicators flashing when you use the turn signal lever is normal. Good job sorting out a wiring mess. |
Hi TomWesty,
Thank you sir for this info. I am relieved that I don't have to mess with that part of the wiring anymore, whew! _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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lmaoufle wrote: |
If you are talking about the turn signal indicator light (on the cluster) it is normal that they blink at the same time. If you really want them to blink independently search this forum some have change the wiring diagram to do so.
Last year I did have a short, I remove completely the dashboard, it tooks me one hour (taking my time enjoying the view ) but it allows me to better see the fuse box, all wires from the cluster, clean the 46 years dust and repaint the dash. I advice you to do so next time it is really not a tough job and make it really easy to mess with wires!
On the poptop I did not understand your latch trouble, how is your latch now ? mine looks like yours in your pics, you are missing the gasket that goes around the poptop and prevent air from coming inside.
Good job on the restoration, I really like your pictures based post |
Hi lmaoufle
Thank you for pointing out the latch for me because it prompted me to take a second look at it and decided that it does not look right after I turned the latch to face backwards. I turned it back to how it was which is facing the front (just how it shows on the latest pictures that I posted) and it works better this way.
I will definitely take your advice and maybe pull out the dash gauges and study how the wires are set up. Hopefully I will be able to put them all back without making a spaghetti mess out of those wires. _________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Here is a diagram for the Dome light circuit. 72 is the same as 71.
Note there should be two Brown/white wire connected to the right rear of the left door switch.
One of the Brn/wh wires goes over to the right door switch.
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You should disconnect the green wire from the coil during testing. Leaving the ignition on without the engine running can fry the points and or coil.
Good luck
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ateneo Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 403 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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_________________ 1966 Riviera camper Bus
1967 EZ camper bus
1971 Westfalia bus
1971 Deluxe bus
1969 Bus
1962 Bug
1963 Bug
"Rust free" means Rust is FREE. The rest is junk. |
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Spike0180 Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2015 Posts: 2269 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:33 am Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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Nice, and a working generator light. _________________ Brutis Patches Izabich: 1970 VW Transporter - 1776cc DP
Current State: Projects never truly end...
Location: Grosse Pointe, Michigan
Other cars: 2003 F150, 2003 Jetta GLI vr6-6sp
Sambastic: adj; the quality of being nit picky, elitist, expecting everyone to do things the way they believe is best with no regard to situation, "sambastic" |
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bvolks Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2004 Posts: 845 Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: My restoration project, a 1971 Westfalia. Still learning. |
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This gives me hope that I might actually get my doublecab done someday. _________________ 1985 Diesel Jetta Coupe (temporarily retired at
756,000 km)
1971 Doublecab project
1995 Golf CL
1974 Beetle
1978 Westfalia |
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