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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

What exhaust are you running? Only a stock or properly modified aftermarket exhaust will have the proper plumbing to feed the manifold preheat pipes. You may not be getting any hot air through the preheat. Many aftermarket setups actually have those ports plugged requiring you to drill them out.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

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What exhaust are you running? Only a stock or properly modified aftermarket exhaust will have the proper plumbing to feed the manifold preheat pipes. You may not be getting any hot air through the preheat. Many aftermarket setups actually have those ports plugged requiring you to drill them out.
it's the empi single tip "econo exhaust" it has the plumbing for the heat risers, plenty large enough holes all the way through, i have the manifold back on the car, no vacuum leaks, no blockage, cylinders 2 and 4 are literally just not firing at full capacity, the exhaust is only getting warm, not hot, i've checked everything and it has to be a carburetor issue, there is nothing left.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

Have you checked for compression on those two cylinders and check for tight valves.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

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From what I remember on a DVDA, #1 cylinder was the wire toward the back right on the distributor ( because it was always a pain to hook up the timing light). Looks like #1 is hooked up in the front right here. Since you say cylinder 2 and 4 don't change sound, check that all the spark plug wires go to the correct cylinders.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

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From what I remember on a DVDA, #1 cylinder was the wire toward the back right on the distributor ( because it was always a pain to hook up the timing light). Looks like #1 is hooked up in the front right here. Since you say cylinder 2 and 4 don't change sound, check that all the spark plug wires go to the correct cylinders.


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Also just to say, the bus is far from slow, i'm impressed, it shits and gets for a bus with a 57 horse 4 cylinder. Thanks everybody for your time, the samba community never lets me down.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

I was amazed at how smoothly it idled and how well it revved. I've worked in lines so long I had forgotten how forgiving a flat four is on firing order mistakes. After I talked with vman on the phone I was at a loss and was thinking very esoteric. Once the Bus saw my Haynes polo undershirt , though, I could smell the fear...,,
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

Of course now that it's been pointed out, it's easy to see in the picture that the firing order is set to 1234 instead of 1432.... Good job guys!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

Pretty nice to have that guy in your back yard. Just make sure he cuts his toenails Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Just how slow is an early bay? Reply with quote

such a great picture, thanks again man! i owe you one.
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