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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay one year only list Reply with quote

Looks like neat install, but I have never found it necessary on mine, and I am 6'4" . And that is after 350,000 miles of driving, with plenty of repairs and the ups.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay one year only list Reply with quote

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My 1972 one year only option. Didn't they all come this way?
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Very nice. Good to hear from another upstater, too...down near Albany.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay one year only list Reply with quote

I also hope you replaced that 90* rubber in the middle there? Probably a good idea to replace all connections with ethanol resistant hose.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay one year only list Reply with quote

now was 72 the last year of a kombi to have the short headliner. i don't recall every seeing a late kombi 73-79 with a short headliner.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I doubt there are very many '72s still running around that have the lenses they originally came with from the factory. Can anyone find an original photo of any kind of U.S. model pre-73 VW that had amber turn signals?

My '72 Sportsmobile had what I believe are the original tail light lenses, and they had amber/red/white.

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Was a T4 ever a Eurupean option or stock in a Bay?

Yes, there was. The Swedes, in particular, were fond of the 2.0-L FI Type IV engine. I believe Ratwell's '76 double cab had one.

As for other '72-only stuff: I just noticed that the plate holding up the insulation above the engine compartment is metal, not fiberboard like the later ones.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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atomicmime wrote:
I doubt there are very many '72s still running around that have the lenses they originally came with from the factory. Can anyone find an original photo of any kind of U.S. model pre-73 VW that had amber turn signals?

My '72 Sportsmobile had what I believe are the original tail light lenses, and they had amber/red/white.

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Was a T4 ever a Eurupean option or stock in a Bay?

Yes, there was. The Swedes, in particular, were fond of the 2.0-L FI Type IV engine. I believe Ratwell's '76 double cab had one.

As for other '72-only stuff: I just noticed that the plate holding up the insulation above the engine compartment is metal, not fiberboard like the later ones.


I haven't looked at many other busses to see what they have, but can confirm the plate above the engine holding the insulation is metal in mine too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay one year only list Reply with quote

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now was 72 the last year of a kombi to have the short headliner. i don't recall every seeing a late kombi 73-79 with a short headliner.

Short headliner in commercial models right up to the end of 79.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay one year only list Reply with quote

196725s :Yes about the fuel lines. That is one of the reasons I made the hatch in the first place. Made it so easy to take firewall out and change All the hoses including filler hose.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay one year only list Reply with quote

Mine came with Amber tail lenses. Reminder- '72 has the machine threads on the tail lenses going into a brass insert in the bulb housing. Later they used a plastic/wood type screw thread going into plain plastic bosses. Lots of inserts have probably been damaged over the years as the old worn out lenses lost their nicely made screws, and incorrect screws were used.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:12 am    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay one year only list Reply with quote

When exactly (date/chassis numer) did the engine lid change mid year? Wondering if originally my 72 came with a "72" or later lid.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay Window one year only list FAQ - Bumper Brackets Reply with quote

I am working on a 1972 VW Bus restore, and am trying to find replacements for bumper brackets. Specifically, I am trying to figure out what the side rear brackets (left rear side, and right rear side) would be, as I can't seem to find reference to them. The closest I can find to reference these brackets would be for splash pans for the rear bumper. However, I am not sure about that.

See attached pictures of the brackets I am referring to. Note: They are bent (and thus why I am trying to find replacements for them).

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

- JM
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay Window one year only list FAQ - Bumper Brackets Reply with quote

jmueller wrote:
I am working on a 1972 VW Bus restore, and am trying to find replacements for bumper brackets. Specifically, I am trying to figure out what the side rear brackets (left rear side, and right rear side) would be, as I can't seem to find reference to them. The closest I can find to reference these brackets would be for splash pans for the rear bumper. However, I am not sure about that.

See attached pictures of the brackets I am referring to. Note: They are bent (and thus why I am trying to find replacements for them).

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

- JM
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Some 72's had pans, some just those brackets, I can only guess whoever was supplying the pans couldn't keep up with production at VW. The pans are 1 year only but those brackets are the same on all 68-72 pans, drill a couple spot welds and you have the brackets loose. Myself I'd straighten out yours, they don't look all that bad.

Have a look at this: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=265685&highlight=bumper+pans
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay Window one year only list FAQ - Bumper Brackets Reply with quote

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Some 72's had pans, some just those brackets, I can only guess whoever was supplying the pans couldn't keep up with production at VW. The pans are 1 year only but those brackets are the same on all 68-72 pans, drill a couple spot welds and you have the brackets loose. Myself I'd straighten out yours, they don't look all that bad.

Have a look at this: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=265685&highlight=bumper+pans


Thanks. I have taken a look at the thread you linked to; very much appreciated.

It looks like it would be best to work with these current brackets, bend them into shape, clean them up, and use them accordingly.

Now I am trying to figure out the rear bumper situation, as the front and rear I have are dinged up. I am working through the options of either spending time to fix the existing ones up or going with a stainless steel options (or chrome option). What are your thoughts on that? If going with a new one, would you go with the stainless steel?

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay Window one year only list FAQ - Bumper Brackets Reply with quote

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It looks like it would be best to work with these current brackets, bend them into shape, clean them up, and use them accordingly.

Now I am trying to figure out the rear bumper situation, as the front and rear I have are dinged up. I am working through the options of either spending time to fix the existing ones up or going with a stainless steel options (or chrome option). What are your thoughts on that? If going with a new one, would you go with the stainless steel?

- JM

Hmmm......, well painted bumpers allow for quite a bit of bodywork, just how bad are yours?. You might also ask some local chrome shops if they straighten bumpers, many used to offer that service at a very good price, with the advent of plastic it's a dying art, but some may still do it. Here's another option: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1438638 , I haven't seen his work so that's not an endorsement, check his feedback. The stainless ones do look nice, but I'm not a fan of shiny bumpers on a bus so I've never looked that hard at them, I did deal with a set of Datsun bumpers from the same supplier recently and they were as good as can be, and less $ than having the originals straightened and rechromed.

You sound like there's many more questions to follow, perhaps start a build thread and introduce yourself and your bus, post some pictures too.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay Window one year only list FAQ - Bumper Brackets Reply with quote

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Hmmm......, well painted bumpers allow for quite a bit of bodywork, just how bad are yours?. You might also ask some local chrome shops if they straighten bumpers, many used to offer that service at a very good price, with the advent of plastic it's a dying art, but some may still do it. Here's another option: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1438638 , I haven't seen his work so that's not an endorsement, check his feedback. The stainless ones do look nice, but I'm not a fan of shiny bumpers on a bus so I've never looked that hard at them, I did deal with a set of Datsun bumpers from the same supplier recently and they were as good as can be, and less $ than having the originals straightened and rechromed.

You sound like there's many more questions to follow, perhaps start a build thread and introduce yourself and your bus, post some pictures too.


Thanks. I will look into starting a thread for the 72 build, as I have a bunch of questions, and am slowly learning. Smile

The reason for the chrome or stainless steel bumpers is because the bus is having a patina look. For the pictures that I posted with the left / right rear brackets, you can see the look I am going after. That rust and bare metal patches are actually done on purpose to get that patina look. The rubber and other fixtures, like the bumper, are going to be clean and "new" looking to accent the patina look. It will be different....

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 1972 Bay Window one year only list FAQ - Bumper Brackets Reply with quote

jmueller wrote:
I am working on a 1972 VW Bus restore, and am trying to find replacements for bumper brackets. Specifically, I am trying to figure out what the side rear brackets (left rear side, and right rear side) would be, as I can't seem to find reference to them. The closest I can find to reference these brackets would be for splash pans for the rear bumper. However, I am not sure about that.

See attached pictures of the brackets I am referring to. Note: They are bent (and thus why I am trying to find replacements for them).

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

- JM
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