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Nikolodeon
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Have you gotten them yet? How do you install them?
Planning on getting some for my bug |
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Stock Steve
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Stock Steve
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:51 am Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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So far VERY good communications with the seller, both via direct e-mail and also Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/deanosvw/
Answered my question about whether or not these were suitable for powdercoating w/o fear of warping--answer was yes, they are indeed suitable for powdercoating.
I neglected to confirm that they are held on via the hubcap--I will ask that question next chance I get.
I ordered mine via their web site and paid with paypal, on 5/28/2017, and I imagine with the Memorial Day holiday and all, mail may be somewhat backed up. The seller indicated they were shipped out ASAP on Tuesday, via Priority Mail, so they should be arriving soon (I am in Connecticut, although I don't know exactly where Deano's is located).
I will certainly be following up with additional posts to this thread, once they arrive, and I begin my project...
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deanomont
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:26 am Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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Hello,
I recommend using hubcaps to hold them on securely. I haven't had one pop off once.
Some like to use an epoxy to permanently mount them, but I don't think it is necessary unless ,of course, you don't use a hubcap.
This method seems to work fine, but I personally like to be able to remove them.
I'm working on a fastening system, that I will hope be the final solution for those who dislike hubcaps. It is soldered on with a 20,000 PSI solder.
Nice thread Steve, thank you!
Deano's was launched on May 20th, so i haven't got much feedback yet. Many are still waiting for theirs to come in the mail. I would also love to see some more pics! Make sure you send them to me and I'll put them on my blog at deanosvw.com, facebook, etc.. Thanks-D |
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deanomont
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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There is a lot of people asking about powder coating.
It can be successfully done by a professional only. You don't want to get them too hot or there might be some distortion. I am no pro myself, but I have pulled it off. The trick is to "flash them quickly at a low temp.
I highly recommend a pro do this job.
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Stock Steve
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andk5591
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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I got a set from a guy in New Zealand. I used seam sealer to glue them to the wheels and also ran a bead around the outer perimeter. I did my wheels a solid color. This is a show car, so I only put maybe 1000 or so miles a year on it. But I have had mine on for 5 years and no issues.
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Stock Steve
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Stock Steve
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:53 am Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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| andk5591 wrote: |
| I got a set from a guy in New Zealand. I used seam sealer to glue them to the wheels and also ran a bead around the outer perimeter. I did my wheels a solid color. This is a show car, so I only put maybe 1000 or so miles a year on it. But I have had mine on for 5 years and no issues. |
Sounds great--have you posted any pictures anywhere?
I am planning on a contrasting color for the rings (probably some shade of white or ivory, like VW put on the centers of wheels in the late '50s/early '60s), and then another color for the wheels. I am not planning on using anything other than the hubcaps to hold them on.
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deanomont
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:37 am Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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Your rings sure are shiny Steve!
Make sure you test fit them on your new wheels before you buy them. They might be T3 wheels, which could be bad. T3 wheels have a different offset, therefore they will not fit correctly. They will work, but there will be a 10mm gap where it meets the rim, and hubcaps will be required.
They look the same, but don't let them fool ya..
I'm making some mods to my tooling for T3 folks.. I'll keep you posted.
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Stock Steve
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:12 am Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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| deanomont wrote: |
Your rings sure are shiny Steve!
Make sure you test fit them on your new wheels before you buy them. They might be T3 wheels, which could be bad. T3 wheels have a different offset, therefore they will not fit correctly. They will work, but there will be a 10mm gap where it meets the rim, and hubcaps will be required.
They look the same, but don't let them fool ya..
I'm making some mods to my tooling for T3 folks.. I'll keep you posted.
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Very good advice about the possible T3 wheels bugaboo, Deano--thank you! Will definitely be doing a full test-fitting to make sure I have a fully compatible set of wheels to go with the rings, prior to spending any money!
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andk5591
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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| andk5591 wrote: |
| I got a set from a guy in New Zealand. I used seam sealer to glue them to the wheels and also ran a bead around the outer perimeter. I did my wheels a solid color. This is a show car, so I only put maybe 1000 or so miles a year on it. But I have had mine on for 5 years and no issues. |
Sounds great--have you posted any pictures anywhere?
I am planning on a contrasting color for the rings (probably some shade of white or ivory, like VW put on the centers of wheels in the late '50s/early '60s), and then another color for the wheels. I am not planning on using anything other than the hubcaps to hold them on. |
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Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
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Stock Steve
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| Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:26 am Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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Thanks....And of note, there are 2 different wheels on this car. I needed different offsets for the fronts and rears....I used dropped spindles in the front, so I had to bring the front wheels in as far as possible. To be perfectly honest, I don't like how the fronts look. The hubcaps stick out too far. If I did it over, I would have used an adjustable beam instead.
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Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
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deanomont
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| Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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| Did you use different rings for the different offsets or was it one size fits all? |
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Stock Steve
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:06 am Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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Exciting trip to my favorite local powdercoaters' ( http://shorelinepowdercoating.com/ ) yesterday! Picked up my group of five used stock 4.5" wide, ET46 OEM VW wheels with a nice medium red coating, AND my set of four new-manufacture "Deano's Smoothie Rings" that I had powdercoated white. Will add a couple more photos next chance I get--only time for this one shot right now...
I made sure to pass along the advice from Deano to my powdercoater about avoiding any possible warpage issues--that being not to overheat the rings, and not to hold them too long at temperature--and it appears the rings did just fine thru the powdercoating process--no detectable warpage...
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Stock Steve
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:25 am Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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This past Sunday, July 2nd, 2017, I finally had my new wheels & tires setup all together, such that I could do the new sneakers changeover for the Creeky '69 Bug. What were on there were some refinished 14" Minilite-style Western alloys, with some fat BFG radials. The new setup are a set of 4.5" wide, ET46, refinished OEM VW wheels (powdercoated red), a set of "Deano's Smoothie Rings" (powdercoated white), some "Taiwan special" chrome dome hub caps, and some 6.00x15 "Royalton" wide whites, purchased from Lucas Automotive in Long Beach, CA (plus, expert mounting & balancing by my favorite local garage, Stony Creek Auto in Branford, CT). Enjoying the change!
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deanomont
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:53 am Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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Good news:
I would like to update those who are interested in type 3 (ET-46) rings. I have a new version of rings that fit both type 1 and type 3 wheels. I just needed to bump them out a bit. Still a high quality fit for both types of wheels. PM me if you are interested. |
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Stock Steve
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:37 am Post subject: Re: "Smoothie Rings" for 4-bolt Type 1... |
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| deanomont wrote: |
Good news:
I would like to update those who are interested in type 3 (ET-46) rings. I have a new version of rings that fit both type 1 and type 3 wheels. I just needed to bump them out a bit. Still a high quality fit for both types of wheels. PM me if you are interested. |
I consciously knew I was putting your "original recipe" rings on my ET46 wheels, Deano, and unless you look really, really close, you can't tell that there is that tiniest of gaps between the outer edge of the ring, and the wheel seam.
I may still have to spring for some of those new Type 3/ET46-specific rings, though!
Maybe even have my powdercoater guy do them in some different color too, so I'll have the ability to mix things up even more. "Wheels are turning" in my head now! Ha ha!
Thanks and keep up the great work, Deano!
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