Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
73 westy Distributer question
Forum Index -> Bay Window Bus Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
rogerd20
Samba Member


Joined: June 24, 2017
Posts: 10
Location: Jonesboro
rogerd20 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:53 pm    Post subject: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

Hey guys, hopting to get some help on my distributer wiring. I just bought this 73 westy that hasn't been ran in many years. The motor cranks with a battery on it and I'm wanting to see if it runs. All the wires are pulled off the ignition coil, and I'm wondering if the black wire that comes of the distributer goes to ground like usual or hot. The other wire seems to wrap under and go to the little cylinder mounted on the side. Thanks before hand for any help.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
busdaddy
Samba Member


Joined: February 12, 2004
Posts: 51123
Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
busdaddy is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

Exclamation VW grounds are brown, never ground a black wire, especially in the engine compartment, expensive smoke will result. Exclamation

That looks like the wire from the points, it's usually green but you likely have some brand of aftermarket points. It goes to the #1 or - terminal on the coil, the other black wire coming from up by the booster fan on the roof of the compartment goes on #15 (+), there shouldn't be any other wires on that #1 terminal.
_________________
Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.

Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!

Слава Україні!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rogerd20
Samba Member


Joined: June 24, 2017
Posts: 10
Location: Jonesboro
rogerd20 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

Thanks busdaddy, the picture isn't real clear, there is only 1 wire that can be terminated on the ignition coil, the other wire runs to the small cylinder shaped object on the distributer.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
busdaddy
Samba Member


Joined: February 12, 2004
Posts: 51123
Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
busdaddy is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

The small cylinder is called a condensor, it's a capacitor to preserve the points contact surfaces, most come with wires to the points and coil installed already like that one appears to have.
_________________
Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.

Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!

Слава Україні!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rogerd20
Samba Member


Joined: June 24, 2017
Posts: 10
Location: Jonesboro
rogerd20 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

Busdaddy, withthat being said does this wire need to land on the - or + of the ignition coil. Sorry just trying to clarify. Here are some other photos I have.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
busdaddy
Samba Member


Joined: February 12, 2004
Posts: 51123
Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
busdaddy is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

In this case being a single wire coming from the distributor then it goes on the #1 terminal regardless of it's color, all other wires go on #15, even the black ones.
_________________
Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.

Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!

Слава Україні!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
rogerd20
Samba Member


Joined: June 24, 2017
Posts: 10
Location: Jonesboro
rogerd20 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

Thanks for the help, the wiring in the engine bay is a mess so I'm just trying to figure out enough of them to run it off the battery to see if the motor will turn over.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Tcash
Samba Member


Joined: July 20, 2011
Posts: 12844
Location: San Jose, California, USA
Tcash is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

If it has not ran in years, change the engine oil & filter, fuel filter and the gas. If you start it with water contaminated or sludge up oil. You will ruin the bearing and seize the motor. Gas that has turned to varnish will clog up the fuel pump and carburetor.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Tcash
Samba Member


Joined: July 20, 2011
Posts: 12844
Location: San Jose, California, USA
Tcash is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

Welcome to TheSamba, Bay Window Bus Forum!

Tcash wrote:
Every Type IV engine owner should know this!!!

If you over tighten the Oil Strainer bolt, you will brake the engine case!
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


There is a Oil strainer in there.
TORQUE THE STRAINER BOLT TO NO MORE THAN 9 FT. LBS.


Tcash wrote:
Here is a little information. Good Luck

Pictures would be cool.
How to post photos/How to post a photo in the Forums

Pronunciation (Samba) English

I am thinking of buying a VW van
Cleaning+Rodents+Hantavirus
Up in smoke... Bus fires... don't let it happen to you!
M-Plate Location
M-Plate Decoder Volkswagen Type 2 Bus
Bus VIN / Chassis Numbers
Type 2/Bus Owner's Manuals
Bus repair manuals
Bus parts manuals
Early Baywindow Bus Parts Book
Late Baywindow Bus Parts Fiche
Type 2 Wiring Diagrams
Model and Year Variations
Type 4: Secrets Revealed
Distributor Parts & Specifications
PARTS INTERCHANGE MANUAL
Youtube Videos

There is a ton of information located at the top of the Forum section.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Wasted youth
Samba Member


Joined: July 06, 2012
Posts: 5134
Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
Wasted youth is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

Some aftermarket coils are not marked with the numbers on the terminals, just a plus or minus symbol.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
kenryan
Samba Member


Joined: December 01, 2016
Posts: 11
Location: Minnesota
kenryan is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 73 westy Distributer question Reply with quote

Rogerd20
I hope you don't mind a minor (temporary) highjack of your topic by a related question.
I have a 75 Riviera with 2L Type 4 engine with dual Weber IDF 40s.
I'm looking for a good replacement for the stock ignition.
would like to go with CDI but am stymied trying to find a good distributor WITHOUT vacuum advance. (centrifugal only)
Would appreciate redirection to any appropriate thread covering this issue.
Finding many distributors for Types 1, 2 and 3 but not Type 4.
Have been searching a lot and finally found this RECENT post so though I'd dive in.
Thanks ANYBODY for ANY advice and especially you, Rogerd20 for letting me step on your thread.
Ken Ryan
_________________
1975 Riviera
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8375801#8375801
1973 Bellanca Super Viking
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Bay Window Bus All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.