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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:36 pm    Post subject: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

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Was installing a set of Mahle rod bearings and one was tight. Took the rod apart and a big flake had come off the brand new bearing. Not impressed with Mahle quality right now.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

How old?

The Mahle today is not on par with the Mahle years ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

They use to be made in Germany, and now they are made in Brazil. They are still good pistons, but now days, it's a lesser quality control than when they were in Germany. I hope you can get an exchange without much trouble..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

The mahle rod bearings were always cheap, LOW performance, bi-metal bearing.
Some people say they work well, but I don't think so.
I would use them in a stock rebuild but not for HP stuff
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

modok wrote:
The mahle rod bearings were always cheap, LOW performance, bi-metal bearing.
Some people say they work well, but I don't think so.
I would use them in a stock rebuild but not for HP stuff


KS are available, Clevite mostly NLA. Glen, what do you recommend?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

satterley_sr wrote:

Was installing a set of Mahle rod bearings and one was tight. Took the rod apart and a big flake had come off the brand new bearing. Not impressed with Mahle quality right now.


Probably fake. Don't use them before checking.

http://www.mahle-aftermarket.com/na/en/mahle-aftermarket/brand-protection/the-security-labels/
http://www.mahle-aftermarket.com/na/en/mahle-aftermarket/brand-protection/online-verification/
http://www.mahle-aftermarket.com/na/en/mahle-aftermarket/brand-protection/offline-verification/

And not only bearings, almost every part from various brands from clutch disks to spark plugs...

The image below is from a fake Mahle bearing after only two months of use, less than 1.000 km: Ruined the engine of the owner, carefully rebuilt.

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More fake s%#*@@!! seized by police
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

I'm running the KS in the engine I have now. It's what came with the Berg engine kit I bought.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

I have had good luck with silverline bearings.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

Federal-mogul or KS, seem about equal
Don't know about Silverline, just don't know. I'll buy some and find out, someday, but the silverline cam thrust bearings are screwy, watch out for that.


Why would anybody counterfeit a set of 15$ rod bearings?
Why would anybody buy a set of 15$ rod bearings?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

How about metal leve and glyco? I don't know if they are still made but there seems to be plenty of NOS sets around.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

Sorry I can't be of more help.
I used clevite rod bearings in every Vw engine I ever built, but this year that will have to change.

For a fancy alternative might get King bearings and have them coated. The Chebby crowd loves those, but the way the sizes run on those, your crank will have to be dead on the low side or even .0005 below to have enough clearance. All the brands run a little tighter than I'd like but king is worse, and being an aluminum bearing you don't want to be tight.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

Not all Mahle is fake/etc.

I've got Brazilian bearings and German cylinders that I rescued from under layers of dust.

You just need to know your supplier. Make sure your supplier has a foot in the game.

Also, I think ebay offers protection along with paypal. If you bought it off ebay let them know.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: MAHLE Quality? Reply with quote

I use Silverline as much as possible.
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