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sixfootdan
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 Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:56 pm Post subject: 5 speed conversion |
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I have a 1981 Caddy and I am removing the 4 speed in lieu of a 5 speed. The arm that moves the rod in a transverse direction needs to be longer to move past 3rd to reach 5th. I need to know the difference in length from the 4 speed to the 5 speed? Thanks in advance.
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: 5 speed conversion |
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You'll really want to get the linkage out of a 5-speed car, the shifter box is slightly different too to allow for the extra throw of the lever.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: 5 speed conversion |
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| And I think the piece with the ball on it is also different. I have adjusted a 4 speed linkage to shift a 5 speed tranny in the past, but it takes some trial and error, as you cannot use the method outlined in the Bently Manual. |
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sixfootdan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: 5 speed conversion |
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| You'll really want to get the linkage out of a 5-speed car, the shifter box is slightly different too to allow for the extra throw of the lever. |
I just found complete 5 speed linkage on Craigslist, So I guess I'll go that route. 
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sixfootdan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: 5 speed conversion |
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New problem, I drove my caddy with the 5 speed but I can't get 1st and 2nd without pushing down on the shifter as if to go in reverse. I slid the shifter plate around with no luck. I read somewhere about a stop finger gap needing to be 15mm but I don't know what that is? Before I start moving things around, I thought maybe someone has already been there. Thanks
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: 5 speed conversion |
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| There is a very nice diagram in any Bently manual for any mkI for that adjustment. And it is done UNDERNEATH the car, not inside. |
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sixfootdan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: 5 speed conversion |
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| ps2375 wrote: |
| There is a very nice diagram in any Bently manual for any mkI for that adjustment. And it is done UNDERNEATH the car, not inside. |
I ordered a manual but still waiting for it. I just figured out the 15mm deal from some more reading. I also think the selector lever is set too far to the passenger side. I'll post results as I go.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:31 am Post subject: Re: 5 speed conversion |
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| sixfootdan wrote: |
| New problem, I drove my caddy with the 5 speed but I can't get 1st and 2nd without pushing down on the shifter as if to go in reverse. |
There is one clamp on the linkage that needs to be loosen and the linkage needs to be rotated. Then tighten the clamp. If you think about it, you're not moving the lever far enough so that is why you have to press down to get it to move a bit more. It's pretty simple, but you may have to make a scratch mark so you know where you are starting from. |
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:31 am Post subject: Re: 5 speed conversion |
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Put vehicle in first gear, loosen clamp on shift rod right where downpipe does the last turn to meet exhaust, push shift lever against lock out gate then move it away from gate (approximately 1/8", I used to insert a cassette tape case lid or CD case lid between the two. (this is assuming that all the bushings are new.)) then tighten the clamp underneath.
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sixfootdan
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:38 am Post subject: Re: 5 speed conversion |
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Thanks for the info and help, My Manual showed up yesterday. Got it all adjusted and it works great.
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