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superhenk
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 Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:05 pm Post subject: Breast plate question |
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Yes, I did do my research first and really can't find anything. So here it goes:
I have two breast plates for a 36HP, the top one is the 'normal' one, the bottom one has an extra lip spot welded to it to make it larger. It looks stock but I can't figure out what it is for.
Any one here knows what it is for? And the top one is for my '56 Oval?
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Breast plate question |
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| Probably trying to fit the shape so it seals well against an apron that is poorly repaired or changed. |
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EverettB 
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Mr. OGPaint
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: Breast plate question |
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Isn't the larger for an industrial engine?
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Rome
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Breast plate question |
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| I wonder if the bottom one would fit a later car that was larger that had a 36hp put into it for whatever reason? |
I think you're close. I remember reading here many years ago that when VW went to the 40hp engine in the Ghia for the 1961 model year, the original 36hp engine compartment rear panel (that holds the engine lid latch) was discontinued for spare parts purposes. Only the later one was kept for spares. Since fitting a later rear panel onto a 36hp Ghia for accident repairs would create a large open gap, this tin was offered. Probably also fits a Beetle on which the H apron was replaced by the '61 and later "smooth" style. I wonder how a 40hp stale air rear breast plate would compare to this 36hp "extended" one. |
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Breast plate question |
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This is what is listed in my early 70's dealer parts book for the 25 and 36hp style breast plate. Unfortunately they all reference the same drawing of a later style breast plate.
111 119 521
cover plate - engine (rear)
from engine 3 912 904 up to 3 949 222
30 b.h.p
111 119 521 D
cover plate - engine (rear)
from engine 3 949 223
30 b.h.p
111 119 523 A
cover plate - engine (rear)
up to engine 3 912 903
25 -, 30 b.h.p
Everything beyond that is for 40 hp and later. Interestingly all the later ones end with a 523 number rather than 521.
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Jacks
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Breast plate question |
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36hp engines were factory installed in new bugs as late as 1965 for use in some countries 
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