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79SuperVert
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 Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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I've been here for 15 years and I must be pretty naive, but it came as a shock to me that there was that much dislike ("hate" is a pretty strong word) of The Samba. Facebook to me is such a mess, I am really surprised that anyone would be looking for serious VW info on that site.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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Joined: January 01, 2007
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Location: sticksville, ct.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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| Mid Engine Bug wrote: |
How this forum is different - I will compare to a Jeep forum I am on. They welcome all Jeeps, stock or nothing even close to it. You build your Jeep how you want and everyone likes it. This forum, you guys welcome all VWs except ones that stray away from a typical VW. You see threads with bone stock patina Bugs that people dont put too much work in to and the thread blows up. Then you have other threads where you know someone has spent 100s if not 1000s of hours making it to their specs and know one cares. In fact, some hate it because you did not preserve it or restore it. Who cares. As long as the owner likes it, go with it. Its still a VW at heart. |
to your point, the domestic car scene is WAY different....from bone stock to all out drag, they embrace all of it. here is seems you are a rock star if you pull a turd out of a swamp, but a narrowed beam on it, camber it to death and roll it. very odd crowd here...
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René R.
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Joined: July 06, 2015
Posts: 1711
Location: No. Calif.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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I'm a relative newbie here, only 2 years, but I love this site and check in 2-3 times a day. What I hate is Facebook. There are WAY too many different Facebook sites (if that's the term) for any topic. How to choose among them? I also hate that on FB it's all about what's new. It's hard to search for previous posts. Forums are way, way better for consolidating topics. Not to mention, most Facebook comments are worthless cheerleading and not helpful.
At my daughter's urging I tried hard to give Facebook a chance but I had to give up. Every time I turned around there was yet another enthusiast's group created for whatever topic I'm interested in.
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79SuperVert
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Joined: May 31, 2002
Posts: 9758
Location: Elizabeth, NJ & La Isla Del Encanto
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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I also want to add that I think the moderators on The Samba are the chief reason that this site works as well as it does. They do it out of a love for the hobby. Without them I think this site would descend into chaos and would be dead in a few months.
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Sharp64
Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015
Posts: 5304
Location: Central Florida
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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I've only been here a couple of years but I've enjoyed most of the interactions I've had here. Actually a fairly helpful crowd and a great resource. I felt that due to the amount of free info I've found here that I should contribute so I did pay for my star. I've really only met one individual that wasn't a fan of The Samba and I get mixed answers as to why. Part of it I think is because he is an Empi dealer and doesn't like the hate that is evident here for anything except OG. He also made a comment something to the effect of "anyone actually building motors for a living doesn't have time to spend all day on a forum". I'm not sure I agree with this feeling as I've received some pretty knowledgeable advice I feel. I will say there is a lot of emphasis on bigger is better in the performance forum, but I guess it goes with the reason for it. People do need to realize that some of us are truly on some sort of budget and we can't all pay once, cry once and buy he best of the best. Sometimes we have to make do. I have also found a few members that tend to shit on people's ideas without offering a solution. I find that pointless.
Overall, I have few true complaints about the forum and hope it persists for quite a long time.
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cdennisg
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Joined: November 02, 2004
Posts: 20275
Location: Sandpoint, ID
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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Did someone say asshole?
Interesting thread. I love the samba. |
I love it too- made some quality friends over the years I would have never met had it not been for this site
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What a dork.
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Tram
Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003
Posts: 22727
Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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I get what you're saying ray...and some may consider me king asshole (or peckerhead as it were) |
hey asshole, don't go trying to steal my crown, especially in the bay forum! you know those bastards hate me!
cheers my friend!
i am really a nice guy, just don't tell anyone. i would not want to ruin my samba personality impression. |
You guys are both pikers in the asshole department. Pish. 
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Tram
Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003
Posts: 22727
Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:40 pm Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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I know why they hate it. There are reasons I think it sucks too...and why I avoided any activity here until about ...2009?..I think?
And in my opinion...in most cases... the fault is squarely divided 50% to one of two causes:
1. In many cases the fault is directly with the individual who hates the Samba...and probably hates ANY of the VW or Porsche or car forums in general. These people treat anything they do on-line as a "free service".
They want it to operate like "Google"...with no bartering, bantering, drama or interactive friction.
They expect to post a concise question on their part...and even of they do not know the part name, number or even have usable spelling....good old Samba-Google will know what they mean and provide a precise answer, link, video or downloadable how-to.
Not getting that....the level of difficulty of having to verify what they are asking about, deal with short tempers....and interjections of absolute BS in the middle of the thread...pisses them off. Their fault.
2. The other 50%?.....Bluntly put....I would say about 30% of all posting in the Samba is worthless banter....like ......
Question: I have a 73 type 3 that is blowing blue smoke...what could be the problem?'
Among the many answers in the thread: "hey...I had a blue type 3 once....do you know Bob in Phoenix?"
or.....something that is not totally out of line...but is too far off on the fringe.....like...."its the way you are driving it"
This 50% is the fault of the Samba.
The Samba........I come here because of the broad range of subjects I am interested in based around just a couple of cars and engine types....the activity level....is afforded simply because of the huge numbers of active members....and not because of it being a better system or forum site.
But make no mistake...while its a great goldmine of a resource....the Samba is an absolute ghetto trailer park of personalities and interactions. 
Its only saving factor...really...is its absolute volume and the huge archives of information. I do like the Samba a lot....but its still a whorehouse of sorts.
If you go over to the STF or Rennlist or even the Vortex for watercooled.....which really are the same type of thing as the Samba....you get a much more reserved...and for the most part more technically informative conversation with virtually no drama. Different atmosphere.
Ray |
Well... duh. You're here, so what did you expect?  |
I KNEW YOU would respond to my wink!...and sadly its true...I am the VW equivalent of mentally tattooed "tweaker" living in a trailer park by the airport. Time to go out to my garage and beat the "old lady"...
Ray |
Dude... your ol' lady beats YOU. don't try to bullshit me. Did your garage come from Costco or Craigslist?
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wcfvw69 
Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004
Posts: 13389
Location: Arizona
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:44 am Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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Ok, I have figured out ONE thing that I HATE about The Samba-
Here goes-
Seeing so many really knowledgeable VW folks passing over the years. Think Russ Wolfe. The guys who worked at the VW dealers, wrenching on these cars back in the 60's and 70's. Or, the guys who have decades of hands on VW wrenching experience.
Spend a few months on this site and you can quickly identify who knows their shit and who are posers. Most of the really experienced folks are in their 50's and 60's and like our VW's, are not getting any younger. I can only think of a couple of guys who are good that are in their 20's and 30's.
Let's hope we can continue to get the younger generation into these VW's before all the experts pass on.
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iowegian
Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005
Posts: 9829
Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:05 am Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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| wcfvw69 wrote: |
Ok, I have figured out ONE thing that I HATE about The Samba-
Here goes-
Seeing so many really knowledgeable VW folks passing over the years. Think Russ Wolfe. The guys who worked at the VW dealers, wrenching on these cars back in the 60's and 70's. Or, the guys who have decades of hands on VW wrenching experience.
Spend a few months on this site and you can quickly identify who knows their shit and who are posers. Most of the really experienced folks are in their 50's and 60's and like our VW's, are not getting any younger. I can only think of a couple of guys who are good that are in their 20's and 30's.
Let's hope we can continue to get the younger generation into these VW's before all the experts pass on. |
On the other hand, just being old doesn't make me smart.  |
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pyrOman
Fire Master
Joined: July 21, 2003
Posts: 12408
Location: Over 2002 posts deleted!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:32 am Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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i HATE bad spelin an gramer! 
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iowegian
Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005
Posts: 9829
Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:41 am Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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| i HATE bad spelin an gramer! |
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raygreenwood
Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008
Posts: 21518
Location: Oklahoma City
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:56 am Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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| Tram wrote: |
| raygreenwood wrote: |
| Tram wrote: |
| raygreenwood wrote: |
I know why they hate it. There are reasons I think it sucks too...and why I avoided any activity here until about ...2009?..I think?
And in my opinion...in most cases... the fault is squarely divided 50% to one of two causes:
1. In many cases the fault is directly with the individual who hates the Samba...and probably hates ANY of the VW or Porsche or car forums in general. These people treat anything they do on-line as a "free service".
They want it to operate like "Google"...with no bartering, bantering, drama or interactive friction.
They expect to post a concise question on their part...and even of they do not know the part name, number or even have usable spelling....good old Samba-Google will know what they mean and provide a precise answer, link, video or downloadable how-to.
Not getting that....the level of difficulty of having to verify what they are asking about, deal with short tempers....and interjections of absolute BS in the middle of the thread...pisses them off. Their fault.
2. The other 50%?.....Bluntly put....I would say about 30% of all posting in the Samba is worthless banter....like ......
Question: I have a 73 type 3 that is blowing blue smoke...what could be the problem?'
Among the many answers in the thread: "hey...I had a blue type 3 once....do you know Bob in Phoenix?"
or.....something that is not totally out of line...but is too far off on the fringe.....like...."its the way you are driving it"
This 50% is the fault of the Samba.
The Samba........I come here because of the broad range of subjects I am interested in based around just a couple of cars and engine types....the activity level....is afforded simply because of the huge numbers of active members....and not because of it being a better system or forum site.
But make no mistake...while its a great goldmine of a resource....the Samba is an absolute ghetto trailer park of personalities and interactions.
Its only saving factor...really...is its absolute volume and the huge archives of information. I do like the Samba a lot....but its still a whorehouse of sorts.
If you go over to the STF or Rennlist or even the Vortex for watercooled.....which really are the same type of thing as the Samba....you get a much more reserved...and for the most part more technically informative conversation with virtually no drama. Different atmosphere.
Ray |
Well... duh. You're here, so what did you expect? |
I KNEW YOU would respond to my wink!...and sadly its true...I am the VW equivalent of mentally tattooed "tweaker" living in a trailer park by the airport. Time to go out to my garage and beat the "old lady"...
Ray |
Dude... your ol' lady beats YOU. don't try to bullshit me. Did your garage come from Costco or Craigslist? |
 ....you are right!....my car is my old lady. I go to the garage and she beats my ass (some days I win).
Oddly enough.....my garage is a "kit garage".....probably came from Lowes. Just big enough for the car and four work benches along one wall. Thats why the basement and one bedroom are workshops.......but yeah.....it was a store bought garage.....
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Cusser
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Joined: October 02, 2006
Posts: 31373
Location: Hot Arizona
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:30 am Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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| Ivan Tucker wrote: |
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Related to Mark Tucker ???
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pyrOman
Fire Master
Joined: July 21, 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:05 am Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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| i HATE bad spelin an gramer! |
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Related to Mark the Trucker ??? |
That Chunks is such a fungi.
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Glenn
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:04 am Post subject: Re: When did it become "cool" to "hate thesamba.com" ? |
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I think we're done.
If anyone has something worth posting.. let me know and maybe i'll unlock it.
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