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Urmyboyblue25
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:31 pm    Post subject: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

Picked this westy up and a decent price (2k) has been sitting for 10 years or so guy parked it outside:( saying it had a seized motor. After months of trying to persuade him to sell it to me. About 5 stops and 3 months later and a lot of beers he finally let it go! So there is the sorta kinda back story. I've been deployed for the past 2 years overseas and had a good buddy out there who got me hooked on these/VW in general. So not being stationed in a new spot I would drive by it everyday. Well that's the back story let's get to the meat and potatoes. Unfortunately he lost the keys both to the ignition and outside doors and gas cap. After pulling it into the garage with a jack and a winch because the steering wheel was locked I started digging into it. Inside was discussing filled with cigarettes and playboys. After cleaning it out I got right to work on pulling the ignition out(drilling a 1/8"hole worked great thanks samba forums. Pulled it out of the garage now that it can steer and gave it a bath inside and out and the motor. I thought it was a perfect time to see it it was seized. Grabbed the pullys and it turned right over oil is still black and feels like it has good compression. Stoked on that! Next I hooked up a battery but discovered you need over 800 crank amps to turn her over. Put the old on one a trickle charge overnight to see if it will holdbI have very little hope. Got a wire brush on the end of the drill and clean up small cancer spots but over all this thing is in amazing shape. I will post photos below I seriously need help from y'all VW experts. I have a bunch of questions I wil post below. Enjoy my feed and thank y'all who follow.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

you got questions Question
we got answers Idea
about as accurate as the weatherman... Laughing


good luck,
post pikturs
and change fuel lines 1st
brake hoses 2nd
and well ok, maybe deep clean the back seat/bed 1st Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

Urmyboyblue25 wrote:
About 5 stops and 3 months later and a lot of beers he finally let it go!


Sounds like a carton of Marlboros and a stack of playboys would've had you home with the van after 2 stops and one month of jabbering.

Regardless, post pics and share some specific questions. It sounds like you got the van at a decent price...but maybe not. Time will tell. Cheers!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

Thank you for the Interest and I apologies for a late response. I am still trying to get my email to go through to get the pics from my phone to the computer. well I guess now is the time to ask you experts some advice along with some well needed tips and tricks. I am a really good mechanic but best with Toyota so VW is all new to me.
Lets get started with the questions:
knowing that it has been sitting for years and years with no fuel what is the best way to drop the tank/get a new one? or clean the old one? it looks like someone installed new fuel lines 10 years ago but I do not trust it.
next question is the gas cap is locked how can I take it off?
I found the drill the hole through and take the ignition tumbler out so it can at least steer but would it be best to take it and have a key made or just order a new tumbler and key at the busdepot for $26?
found a weak spot inside the body right above the propane tank is that spot accessible Rolling Eyes from cutting the outside or removing the stove and cabinets on the inside? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

got a little bit further on cleaning rust now I need to decide to rebuild the 1.9 or put in a Subaru motor. im leaning towards Subaru but I do not know who sells a inexpensive kit or trans plate Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

Subaru? It's a German. 1.8T FTW
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

Before you spend a lot of time cleaning up and trying to repair surface rust around those seems, have a look on the inside of those panels. Those seems typically rust from the inside out. In particular, the seem along the bottom below the hookups is notorious for being worse on the inside than it shows on the outside. Pull the frig and cabinets to kill the rust on the inside before you waist your time trying to fix the outside... Good Luck! Many a rusted vans have been brought back to life from worse beginnings! Think about rebuilding it as a 2.2 or a 2.3 for added ponies or buy a GoWesty engine.

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PostPosted: Yesterday 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

thank you for the reply, I absolutley think it is coming from the inside. I pushed in on the panel and I can hear a rusty crackle sound from the inside lower panel. next question how hard is it to take out the fridge and cabinets?
Is there any websites out there that sell the shaped steal for a cut and weld in place of the rust?
I am trying to convince the Boss (wife) to switch to a Subaru im thinking a 2.5 non turbo. I was looking at gowesty conversion kit but that things like $2600 then I found another kit but with a bell housing instead of an adapter plate for arounf $1700 from small car I think? what is the difference and do I need to pick up a manual engine bc my westy is a manual transmission?
thank you guys for all the help
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PostPosted: Today 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

Hey so about those playboys.....

Not too shabby of a starter van. Before worrying about a complete transplant, why not go and check the compression and see if you can get the old lump running first. You'll learn a whole hell of a lot about the electrical, starter and various systems of the bus which will inevitably help you out in a future conversion.
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PostPosted: Today 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

what should the compression be sitting at? also how do I know if the motor is a 1.8 or a 1.9?
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PostPosted: Today 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 1985 VW vanagon gl westfalia restoration Reply with quote

1.9 l would be a pancake type Arrow like your pic Arrow you have 1.9l Exclamation unless it was bumped up and rebuilt as some point Question
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