Starter Question on my 59

frankthetank81 · Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:17 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Yea on the Starter from Bat to Solenoid, it will turn but not engage.

I cannot remember about the voltage on the key turn, if it dropped our not. I will look tonight.

I also am going to throw the old one back on tonight and see if I have the same problem.

Eric&Barb · Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

frankthetank81 · Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:23 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

It was the new starter all along, put the old one in, car fired right up. Tried to test the new starter on the bench and it would not work at all. You guys were right, the new starters are junk. For 300(No core) I would expect a much better quality piece. I don't think I have ever had a new starter not work for me.

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Cusser · Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:52 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Good.

frankthetank81 · Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:35 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

I will keep that in mind next time. The bench test was more of just a check my sanity. The fact that it did not work at all didn't surprise me.

frankthetank81 · Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Okay so Bosch starter number 2 same exact result. Solenoid just clicks with the turn of the key. Battery is 3 days old brand new. Old starter was working totally fine.

Any ideas anybody?

Eric&Barb · Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Clean, tighten, dielectric grease all connections between battery, starter and gen/reg.
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60ragtop · Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

check the voltage going to the solenoid wire while cranking.
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frankthetank81 · Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

6.3 Volts, same as the battery.

60ragtop · Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:49 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Where are you getting the starters?
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frankthetank81 · Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:03 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Airhead.

Coming from the dealership world while I was in school, I was never a fan of Bosch, but it seems to be the only option out there short of finding a mom and pop rebuild place. Which I will be doing this winter now.

The current (It damn near looks original) is fine, I just am trying to be proactive.

I have had two friends over who are mechanics and way smarter than me on the first one and the conclusion was it was the starter, so here we are now, starter 2 doing the same exact thing.

I don't thing there is anything more I can replace.

Battery, ground, battery to starter. I have tripled checked to make sure I received the correct starter both times via part number.

I have probably replaced 20 starters in my life time and never once had these kind of issues, granted they were all 12v cars.

frankthetank81 · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Hot start relay installed. Same exact result. Put the old starter back in, turns and fires right up. I'm out of ideas. Anyone have a theory?

Eric&Barb · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

frankthetank81 · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:14 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

All connections are new and clean

frankthetank81 · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Well my opinion of Bosch is not gonna change anytime soon. Took the unit up to a highly recommended shop, tested it, didn't work. Took it apart, and two major issues with how it was assembled. Long story short the unit was grounding itself out when the power was applied. I will post pics of the issues tomorrow for reference.

2 bad ones in a row.

60ragtop · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Just curious where you purchased the BOSCH starters from?
New or rebuilt and if rebuilt, by whom?
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frankthetank81 · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Airhead, which has been really awesome with exchanging the first one.

joey1320 · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

Take those back and get your $300. There is no need to spend that kind of money on a starter when rebuilt ones are way cheaper. I'm absolutely sure all the parts in these starters are being pulled from the same parts bin somewhere in China. I've dealt with Advance Auto plenty and never had an issue with a return/exchange of within warranty period.

https://m.advanceautoparts.com/p/carquest-starter-remanufactured-16318s/5844002-P?searchTerm=starter
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frankthetank81 · Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:51 am Post subject: Re: Starter Question on my 59

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So the magnets on the case are not long enough

The coils should not be touching the out side of the case

Starter was grounding itself out every time it was engaged, would never have worked like this.


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