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blackivory69 Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2013 Posts: 309 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Been just about 2 years for mine and it's holding up just fine, not a single issue. Yes, you have to order small quantities from a distributor. You can get that info from the website or by calling the number on the site iircc. I can take a look at my paperwork when I get home to see where I got mine if you need the info, but different distributors service different regions. |
Hi. What's the longest time you drove straight (Stop only to refuel) without having any problem with the solenoid? I heard these solenoids overheat in a few hours of continious use. _________________ 1970 Double Cab. Stock engine (1600 SP)
1973 Thing (Mexican Safari)
1970 Karmann Ghia Convertible
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ewdb92 Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2010 Posts: 502 Location: Plymouth, NH
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:55 am Post subject: |
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blackivory69 wrote: |
ewdb92 wrote: |
Been just about 2 years for mine and it's holding up just fine, not a single issue. Yes, you have to order small quantities from a distributor. You can get that info from the website or by calling the number on the site iircc. I can take a look at my paperwork when I get home to see where I got mine if you need the info, but different distributors service different regions. |
Hi. What's the longest time you drove straight (Stop only to refuel) without having any problem with the solenoid? I heard these solenoids overheat in a few hours of continious use. |
I've driven 6 hours on a hot summer Virginia day in one shot (quick fuel stop in there somewhere probably) and also many longer distance trips with 4-5 hour driving segments (have two young kids so that's about my limit) over the course of several days. We've also sat in summer traffic (yay DC!) for a few hours on hot afternoons. Never had an overheating issue with the valve. _________________ Erik
71 Camper
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scrivyscriv Samba Electrician
Joined: October 04, 2011 Posts: 2922 Location: Memphis
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Desertbusman wrote: |
Here is my custom tank connector from last year.
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I just noticed the tank fitting - did you fab it up yourself? How did you make it?
I'm getting parts together to put in a solenoid on my 71 bus... looking to make a clean install similar to yours, but not as full-featured, lol. _________________ Robert in Memphis
Dünkelgrügen 1967 Java Green bug thread
Engine rebuild thread
If you're ever in the Memphis area, you are welcome to stop by for advice and help. |
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lintbrush Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2013 Posts: 269 Location: Campbell, California
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Tank Shut Off Solenoid Install |
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Based on the desertbusman design, I'm collecting parts to mirror it. My mockup started with barbs and fuel hose, but that seemed silly so will go with steel hardlines and AN fittings. That said, I'm starting to question the complexity of this design and all the potentially points of failure I'm introducing.
Anyone ever been stranded by a failed solenoid shut-off setup? That manual backup valve is nice, but adds fittings, etc. Any experiences out there to help me decide best route?
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Tank Shut Off Solenoid Install |
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After see this thread when it first was posted, I realized I had most of this stuff in the shop somewhere. I mounted it above the front slope of the transmission. It worked good for a while- then engine developed its own problems so parked it--
Having just sold the bus, I thought I would fire it up and see how bad it might be- that whole system of pump, shut off and pressure regulator worked fine after sitting for 5 years-[img][/img] _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
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scrivyscriv Samba Electrician
Joined: October 04, 2011 Posts: 2922 Location: Memphis
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Tank Shut Off Solenoid Install |
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There is no simple way to get around all the fittings it takes to make a setup like this unfortunately. OEM designs are all machined pieces that eliminate adapters or off the shelf fittings, so unless you're good at tig and milling, this is kind of the best you can do ya know?
I have a similar setup under my '71 bus.. used an AN adapter off the tank from Aircooled, elbowed inboard to a ball valve, then hit a tee to supply fuel to engine and BN4 heater. Probably have six different fittings just there alone, and my biggest issue with that many fittings is LEAKS because I have a seep from one of them.
Maybe you could cut the threads off the fittings and have them tig'd together? _________________ Robert in Memphis
Dünkelgrügen 1967 Java Green bug thread
Engine rebuild thread
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BUSBOSS Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 2161 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Tank Shut Off Solenoid Install |
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Any suggestions for fuel cut off for FI late bays? _________________ All the redemption I can offer, girl, is beneath this dirty hood
1976 Westfalia
1970 Karmann Ghia Convertible (sold - but not forgotten) |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51144 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Tank Shut Off Solenoid Install |
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BUSBOSS wrote: |
Any suggestions for fuel cut off for FI late bays? |
Same thing, but you'll need two (return line). _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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BUSBOSS Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 2161 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Tank Shut Off Solenoid Install |
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It's awfully tight quarters down there. Has anyone done this? Pics? _________________ All the redemption I can offer, girl, is beneath this dirty hood
1976 Westfalia
1970 Karmann Ghia Convertible (sold - but not forgotten) |
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sblu Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2019 Posts: 95 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Tank Shut Off Solenoid Install |
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Folks the fuel shut off valve is getting hot. Anyone seeing this?
Voltage is 12 V
Current is around 0.9A
bolt at the end of the valve is at 65C (Centigrade)
Valve body is 55C
Black fitting is 45C
Thanks _________________ 1978 Westfalia Champagne Edition Project |
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sblu Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2019 Posts: 95 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:02 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Tank Shut Off Solenoid Install |
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to follow up on this, I called the supplier and they talked w/ tech support. The answer is that it is within UL spec. However, i found that lowering the input voltage to the solenoid valve decreased the temperature drastically (luke warm). I'm acquiring parts to use lower voltage _________________ 1978 Westfalia Champagne Edition Project |
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Shonandb Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2019 Posts: 1189 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Tank Shut Off Solenoid Install |
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I did some research on a shut off valve for my heater and found a ball valve was better than a solenoid valve as it only used power to open or to close so no heat issues.
You'd have to rig up some sort of relay system to have it linked to open and close with the ignition key though, so not as simple of a hook up as a solenoid valve. Also, not sure about whether it is okay to use with gasoline or not. It says diesel is okay but not sure about gas.
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