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Bassyaks Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2010 Posts: 1137 Location: S.E. Connetitcut
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:16 am Post subject: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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On my 86' Syncro I have mini fender flares, not mud flaps, are these stock or aftermarket and what is the value of these I have one which needs replacement. I haven't seen these in the Classifieds for a while. Looking for any leads on them. Also what's the prices on Rocky Mountain Westys end caps for the bumper,I'm heading out to get a repair estimate and haven't heard back from them yet.
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newfisher Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2012 Posts: 1764 Location: The wet spot--Oregon
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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They are called " Spats" and torn off by those who off road thier rigs, restored and installed by those purists. $200 ish for a nice set if I remember. |
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5078 Location: denver
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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This is where InSyncro used to jump in and say "I have 400 of them and none are for sale."
Maybe check with Chris at T3 Technique? He had a set for sale in the classifieds up until yesterday. Maybe he has a few more. _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
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photogdave Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 3053 Location: Vancouver Island, B.C.
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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AFAIK they were a factory option. It took me about a year to make a set from two different sources in the Samba classifieds.
When my van took a similar hit to yours I was careful to pick up the errant spat off the road and hold on to it until the body work is done! _________________ 89 Syncro GL Westfalia 2.1 WBX/WBXaustSS
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newfisher Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2012 Posts: 1764 Location: The wet spot--Oregon
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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( Elmer Fudd voice) be vewy vewy kewfull removing the nuts from the studs that go through the wheel lip. Soak them several times over several days with penetrating oil. 99% of all used ones have the studs spun in the plastic from an over zealous air wrench removing them. |
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termuehlen Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2012 Posts: 994 Location: Redwood City
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
termuehlen wrote: |
Does anyone know if the small mud flaps were factory or dealer installed. |
Factory, they came on syncros originally equipped with 205 tires. |
_________________ 1988 Westfalia automatic Subaru OBD1
1986 syncro tintop wbx |
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0cean Samba Member
Joined: February 29, 2012 Posts: 1149 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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joetiger wrote: |
This is where InSyncro used to jump in and say "I have 400 of them and none are for sale." |
That's what he would say, but in PM he would try to price gouge you for a used set. _________________ I'm not a mechanic, I just play one on the internet
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569920&highlight=
Left for Dead the Resurrection Story Build:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=613669
(Number of Different Donor VW Vans Body Parts Used: 12)
(Number of completely different vehicles parts used: 3) |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:44 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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Mike Ghia calls them spats(probably a brit term for mud flap)so people started calling them that on this forum. Your van came with the 205 tires from the factory.
You might be able to remove it and epoxy in a bolt or drive a screw into it to repair it. I have saved a few that way. Typically when people attempt to remove them they break the metal stud off or it spins in the plastic. |
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61Scout Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2011 Posts: 1297 Location: Shoreline/Yakima WA
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10250 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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Ocean - I believe you are uncannily accurate on InSyncro/Dylan. Right down to the exact part being discussed. I'd have to research it but my Syncro was missing one and I may have pm'd him also looking for one. He had a lot of great knowledge - wish he could have gotten over himself more in order to share it.
Dojg _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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Bassyaks Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2010 Posts: 1137 Location: S.E. Connetitcut
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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No love loss for Insyncro s demise , although the knowledge was there. |
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0cean Samba Member
Joined: February 29, 2012 Posts: 1149 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:31 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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I did have a personal interaction with him over these little flares. It's to bad his attude was so poor. The guy knew his stuff more then anyone, but I think he dident have the VW sort of attitude of being helpful and kind to others.
Who knows, maybe he ended up in a WRX forum where the attude is a little more brash like a teenager. Anyways, I hope the guy changes and becomes a better person. Wish him well. _________________ I'm not a mechanic, I just play one on the internet
Cluster Rebuild:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569920&highlight=
Left for Dead the Resurrection Story Build:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=613669
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(Number of completely different vehicles parts used: 3) |
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clift_d Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2012 Posts: 265 Location: Hackney innit, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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Part numbers if you can find them are:
Left front - 251 821 809 A
Right front - 251 821 810 A
Left rear - 251 821 811 B
Right rear - 251 821 812 B
Not sure which one you need to replace but Brickwerks in the UK are showing a left rear in stock - make sure you're sitting before you check the price.
https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/mud-flap-t3-rear-left-small-syncro-style.html _________________ 1988 LHD T25 1.6TD Westfalia Club Joker syncro |
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raoul mitgong Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2009 Posts: 1338 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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This could be a good item for 3D printing. Creating the model would be the crux, need a 3d scanner, CMM or something as all those curves would be difficult to draw from scratch (for me anyway).
On InSyncro, he isn't here to defend himself, he likely still browses, no need to antagonize him.
-d _________________ 84 Westy with a 2.1 (Groover)
86 Tintop Syncro (Crow)
86 Tintop Syncro to Westy project (Tom Servo)
91 Westy (Only the top 12 inches of this van (a burn victim)) |
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Kombi///M3 Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2011 Posts: 427 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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I have a set that I would sell if you want.
Besides a few broken screws the flaps are
In decent shape. Just Pm me. |
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WestyBob Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Syncro Mini Fender Flares |
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I always though the spats came standard on the GL models (but maybe not) ?
For a good while now I've successfully used small (microscopic ) brass screws in place of broken spat studs. Also used same to hold on full wheel flares when necessary.
I liked InSyncro, miss him, and see far worse still on the forum. But he personally pissed off at least one moderator, was given lots of warnings and that was it. He failed to realize the forum is not a democracy. |
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charlesnj Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2006 Posts: 35 Location: Galloway,Nj,USA
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