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VWSunny72 Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2014 Posts: 163 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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You should be able to get up in there if you channel your inner contortionist. But, depending on how the hose clamps are laid out, it may be more difficult to tighten them up proper. Obviously the more you can remove from your engine compartment (carb, heater fan, etc), the easier it will be to get up in there. Don't forget to limber up! _________________ ------------------------
I am owned by a 1972 Westy named Sunny. She has a 1979 2.0L engine w/ dual Weber IDF 40s. |
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Bminorguy Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2015 Posts: 9 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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There is a good you tube video on replacing rubber elbow. Not sure how to add a link, but search "replacing the fuel filler neck in a VW bus". |
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vwed Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2004 Posts: 127 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:47 am Post subject: Re: Mercedes Sprinter fuel hose |
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GratefulGerman wrote: |
Just replaced the fuel hose and the elbow filler neck.
Some pics to show you the solution with the mercedes fuel hose.
long and short fuel pipe
filler neck a little cracky after 35 years
fuel hoses in comparison. The mercedes hose is a little bit shorter but fits just fine
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy150/Rotdorn/P1010066.jpg
fuel hose installed
I bought this mercedes part for 8,22 euros, a decent price I think. |
Before I go chasing round Mercedes dealer parts departments here in the UK, how did this hose last, as we are now 6 years on?
Thank you. |
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vwed Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2004 Posts: 127 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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vw76westy wrote: |
here are pics of filler hose
i took the OG filler hose with me to muffler shop & asked for exhaust tube with same bend as hose ($15)
then added 1ft strait filler hose ($20)cut into 2 pieces
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We can get the same Gates hose (23936) that you used here in the UK at a reasonable price.
How well did this hose last 8 years on?
Thank you. |
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tristessa Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2004 Posts: 3992 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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Just a heads up if anyone's thinking of going with the Sprinter hose anytime soon.
I was at the local Freightliner/Sprinter dealer earlier today -- who had to order it in for me, defeating the purpose of going there -- and the guy at the parts counter told me that there's only 23 of them in the US Freightliner/Mercedes parts channel right now. Get 'em while you can...? |
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ToolBox Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: Detroit, where they don't jack parts off my ride in the parking lot of the 7-11
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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tristessa wrote: |
Just a heads up if anyone's thinking of going with the Sprinter hose anytime soon.
I was at the local Freightliner/Sprinter dealer earlier today -- who had to order it in for me, defeating the purpose of going there -- and the guy at the parts counter told me that there's only 23 of them in the US Freightliner/Mercedes parts channel right now. Get 'em while you can...? |
Check your local Dodge dealer... |
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sestino Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2007 Posts: 70 Location: University Park, Maryland
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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ToolBox wrote: |
Check your local Dodge dealer... |
I got this one on Ebay in August from the Tasca Chrysler Dodge dealer in Westerly, Rhode Island for something like $20 delivered.
It is a good fit, but it seems to be about 3/4 of an inch shorter than the original hose. _________________ 1977 Fuel-Injected Sage Green Westy |
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kleinevw Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2010 Posts: 16 Location: Athens, GA
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curtp07 Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 874 Location: Mass
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:10 am Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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Just ordered 2 of the MB part. This job is on deck for next month. Good to have a spare. Thanks for posting! _________________ Subaru |
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borninabus Samba R&D Dept.
Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 4536 Location: Arizona Highways
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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so lets sum this up:
the size of hose you need is 2 1/4"
early bays up to 73 use a sraight length of NAPA NBH1055
mid bays 73-76 use NBH1056; the one with the 45deg bend*
late bays use a short piece of NBH1055 or the MB hose 9014760026; also available (and i assume, much cheaper) through dodge.
*i have installed the 1056 hose multiple times and it can be made a very good fit with a SLIGHT angle cut at the tank end.
other options for mid bays are the later metal fill pipe and a short piece of 2 1/4" or the MB part.
or having an exhaust elbow made and used in conjunction with two short 2 1/4" pieces or MB part.
**there is also a NAPA hose NBH1057 that has a 90deg bend in it that i do not have any experience with. _________________ 88 Van WBX, A/T - 13 JSW TDI 6M/T - 2012 Touareg TDI Sport |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50338
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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It looks to me like it is the NAPA 1056 hose with the slight angle cut already made in it, I would guess that it would work fine.
Their hose for the later Bays appears to be the Dodge/MB hose, it too should work fine.
A radiator hose pick would help in getting either of these hoses in place. |
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CarlosZ Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2016 Posts: 319 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:01 am Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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Anyone using the bus depot $35 or aircooled.net $75 versions of the bent tube? They look alike, but big difference in price. May go with the Napa tube if still available. |
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Terminatez Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2015 Posts: 340 Location: Sun Valley, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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I see the Napa 1056 online at $39.99. Looks to be about the same minus being precut. Would like to know if anyone has used either hose.
I think I would opt for the Napa one that way I get to cut the shape of the hose to perhaps get it to fit to MY liking.
If I can't get any opinions on this hose, I'll just opt to the muffler shop route. _________________ 1972 Westfalia P30 hardtop Campmobile [On-going Restoration]
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I don't think I've ever seen an engine in worse shape. |
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CarlosZ Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2016 Posts: 319 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:36 am Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose FAQ |
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I went with the Napa 1056 with the 45 degree angle. Had to make an angled cut on the tank end. Mine had a slight kink due to the angle so I stuffed the spring that came with the OG hose to minimize the kink. Pretty easy, the angled cut is the only hard thinking part because you've only one shot at it.
Did you find a solution for the 90 degree vent tube on top of the tank? |
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secretsubmariner Champagne Wrangler
Joined: January 08, 2011 Posts: 3104 Location: Tulsa, OK
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose |
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sestino wrote: |
ToolBox wrote: |
Check your local Dodge dealer... |
I got this one on Ebay in August from the Tasca Chrysler Dodge dealer in Westerly, Rhode Island for something like $20 delivered.
It is a good fit, but it seems to be about 3/4 of an inch shorter than the original hose. |
I just got it from Tasca via Ebay as well, for the same price. No fuss, came super quick, too.
Installed:
My new elbow, too!
_________________ -Tony
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1978 Champagne Edition Bus FI
1970 Auto Fastback FI |
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KailuaVeeDub Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2012 Posts: 35 Location: Kailua Hawaii
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose FAQ |
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I did this exact install myself on my 76 while I resealed my gas tank, etc. But now I have have a strong fuel odor in my garage that I didn't have before. My tank also will only accept approx 5gal of fuel before it overflows out of the filler neck at the gas station. I replaced all the fuel and vent lines, however I'm wondering if there is some sort of vent related to the filler tube that I am missing. My bus does not have the charcoal canister (deleted by PO) and is running a progressive carb. |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50338
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose FAQ |
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Your tank has to vent somehow. If the charcoal canister was removed and the small vent hoses plugged off then the tank can not vent via its normal and proper means.
If the original hoses were just left dangling then the tank may have vented all right until bees deposited their eggs in the tubes and stuffed the tubes full of mud. |
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KailuaVeeDub Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2012 Posts: 35 Location: Kailua Hawaii
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose FAQ |
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Hahahaha. Very possible. Although the tubes from the top of the tank are still
In place. They are continuous until they reach the T in the engine bay where it is unattached. It had vented fine prior to my tank/hose refurbish so idk. Maybe they need to be blown out with compressed air? |
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CarlosZ Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2016 Posts: 319 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose FAQ |
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My ‘72 has the charcoal canister removed by a PO. The two vent lines on the tank were left unconnected where they would’ve met at the canister. I had a similar issue where fill ups were real slow. The vent on the top middle of the tank (the larger diameter one that goes to the filler neck via) was plugged. The small vents are not enough to vent during fill ups. Check to see if the middle vent is plugged.
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KailuaVeeDub Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2012 Posts: 35 Location: Kailua Hawaii
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel tank filler hose FAQ |
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My tank does not have that vent outlet in the center of the tank. Good to know that once you had it vented, it filled better. At least it seems like I'm on the right track pursuing venting. |
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