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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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Unfortunately, so is Wolfsburg West.
Does putting your sticker as far away as possible on the same part as the crappy manufacturer's sticker make it any less crappy? _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it.
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16803 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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lil-jinx wrote: |
Here is an example of the one of the best panel on the market,Gerson panel,it is too short and the body lines are off,
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No its not...you're not laying it in there right _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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obx71super Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2012 Posts: 340 Location: Outer Banks NC
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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Well, that settles that! That's really a bummer to see the klassic fab panel leave something to be desired as well. Need to order a bunch of metal for my 73 riviera. Guess I'm just gonna go with bus depot and get the "best" quality of everything I need. That funky green panel not fitting right is disheartening, thought Gerson had his stuff well dialed in....poop!! _________________ 71 super auto stick basically original minus a couple resprays
73 Westy automatic with a 2 liter gex, soon to be a 1.8 liter Headflow masters
Newest Addition!! Solid straight 74 thing totally disassembled!! YEEEWWWW |
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obx71super Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2012 Posts: 340 Location: Outer Banks NC
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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Ah thanks for clarifying skills! So in your opinion, since you know what you're doing, will it be worth the money to get what Gerson offers that I need for my 73, then get the best quality bus depot offers for the rest? Thanks for everyone's input! _________________ 71 super auto stick basically original minus a couple resprays
73 Westy automatic with a 2 liter gex, soon to be a 1.8 liter Headflow masters
Newest Addition!! Solid straight 74 thing totally disassembled!! YEEEWWWW |
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lil-jinx Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2013 Posts: 1109 Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16803 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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lil-jinx wrote: |
Skills I hope your right,would you be kind enough to provide a link or info on how it should go on. |
no link...
typically you can't overlay a panel and have it "line up" very well. it's hard to tell from your pic, but the short rocker side of the cheater panel *may* be a little short in the seam...
if you can hold the edge of the panel (the top edge that you'd weld to the bus) to the side of the bus you can probably see if it lines up. the fold in the seam where you are suppose to spot weld it makes it hard to do an overlay.
I have done about 6 of those panels and never an issue...not to say you may have gotten a sloppy one _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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lil-jinx Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2013 Posts: 1109 Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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This may show it a little better,still come up a bit short,but it is a good solid panel and I will make it look ok,when I compare the piece to the Gerson outer rocker,the rocker is also a little longer.
I did try to adjust the seam profile on the panel,but there is not much give in it.
In the above picture it looks to be a bit short,but after I cleaned out 4 coats of paint and filler from the body lines,the panel was/is the proper length.
This picture shows the body line on the repair panel,the bend where I have marked it was to sharp [90 degrees]I have hammered it out some and will have to give it a few more taps to get it to more closely match the og panel.
Over all I am pleased with it. _________________ https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620186
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=668799
1974 Bay Westfalia. she likes to be called Ethel.
1968 Dune Buggy
1974 parts bus
A smart man learns from his mistakes,a very smart man learns from other's mistakes. |
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cd sullivan Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2008 Posts: 19 Location: GTA Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 11:26 am Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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Please help.
I need to know if the length of treasure chest louvers on a 1969.
Are the same length as the engine bay louvers??
I do not have access to a reference vehicle to measure them and mine came with out them...
I have searched
Thx!
C _________________ It's not finished until its Pinstriped! |
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orwell84 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 2528 Location: Plattsburgh, New York
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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I'm looking for a left side cargo floor edge for a 73 Baywindow. It looks to be about 12" wide. I have seen it at Schofield's and JK in the UK but not in the US. Bus Depot offers a cargo floor half as does WW. Both seem to have vague stampings in the area I'm looking for. Anyone know of a source for this part in the US? Thanks. |
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5778 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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cd sullivan wrote: |
Please help.
I need to know if the length of treasure chest louvers on a 1969.
Are the same length as the engine bay louvers??
I do not have access to a reference vehicle to measure them and mine came with out them...
I have searched
Thx!
C |
I could take some measurements from my 1975 single cab:
(more photos at http://vw.tauxe.net/arandano ),
but I am not sure if that is the same for 1969. _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
http://vw.tauxe.net
1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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cd sullivan Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2008 Posts: 19 Location: GTA Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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That would be great!!!!, Thank you
I have purchased the engine louvers from Auto Craft Engineering, I just need a reference length, I can't see VW making different tooling for the louvers as it would be inefficient...my assumption is there are the same.
jtauxe wrote: |
I could take some measurements from my 1975 single cab:
(more photos at http://vw.tauxe.net/arandano ),
but I am not sure if that is the same for 1969. |
_________________ It's not finished until its Pinstriped! |
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5778 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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Louvers for the engine compartment are 278 mm long, arranged in a 3 x 3 grid.
Louvers for the storage compartment are 298 mm long, arranged in a 2 x 1 grid.
The measurements are +/- a couple of mm, since the edges are rounded and all, but the bottom line is that the storage compartment louvers are 20 mm longer than the engine compartment ones. _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
http://vw.tauxe.net
1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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Yarkle Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: the Hills of Western Maine
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Yarkle Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: the Hills of Western Maine
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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bummer.... this one busdepot is selling:
http://www.busdepot.com/j39782
"Very nice quality, much better than the versions previously available."
Is thicker than previous klokkerholm panels ive seen, but still thinner than the stock ones.
i didnt think about how the removable rear apron might/would/could affect the shape of the corners _________________ Tilda the Mustard Tigress 1973 Squareback (o'''^'''o)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=771024&highlight= |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51057 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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It depends on your metal skills, the early corner is different on the back edge and where it meets the rear seam, there's lots of meat to trim and reshape it but it's not going to fit or look right if you just slap it on as is.
There's also that bump for the bumper pan the later ones lack. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
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cd sullivan Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2008 Posts: 19 Location: GTA Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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jtauxe wrote: |
Louvers for the engine compartment are 278 mm long, arranged in a 3 x 3 grid.
Louvers for the storage compartment are 298 mm long, arranged in a 2 x 1 grid.
The measurements are +/- a couple of mm, since the edges are rounded and all, but the bottom line is that the storage compartment louvers are 20 mm longer than the engine compartment ones. |
WOW THANKS!!!!!!
20mm is a massive difference,
this was the last pieces of info. i needed to start on the door.
Thank you again. _________________ It's not finished until its Pinstriped! |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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orwell84 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 2528 Location: Plattsburgh, New York
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Body Repair Panels? FAQ |
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I am considering replacing a cab doorskin for a 73 bus. As far as I can tell the only available doorskins are made by Klokkerholm, both for the U.S. and Europe/UK. Does anyone else make doorskins of the same thickness as orignal? I am fighting a stubborn dent repair, but the rest of the door is original and in good condition. I have heard the Klokkerholm skins are a good fit. Fitting a new skin looks fairly straightforward. It looks to be mostly a measure twice, cut once kind of thing. Any pitfalls/downsides to replacing one vs finding a good used door?
Thanks for the help. |
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VWsArent4Hippies Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 3076 Location: The Bull City
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