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asdad Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:29 pm Post subject: Early Bay Bumper Guard fit |
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Hi all,
I'm looking to mount a pair of early bay bumper guards from Just Kampers to my front bumper but they prevent the bumper from mounting as they hit the body before the bumper mount bolt holes line up. Has anyone had this issue? I would not doubt if the front of the bus has been hit or bumped into something before.. I'm thinking the easiest way to remedy this is to grind the guards down until they fit? It is the top half of the guard that is hitting the body, but not by a lot. The driver side is worse than the passenger side.. and considering the bondo around the driver turn signal, it furthers my suspicion that that side was hit at some point in it's life.
Any tips or experiences?
Thanks! _________________ 1971 Westfalia - 1600cc DP - S069-1 - Pastell White
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6937 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Are you talkig about over-riders? You bought new ones, nice. I got mine from a member on this site. Anyway, I ran into the same problem. I removed the bumper brackets from the bus, put them in the vise and flattened them out a bit. They cleared after that. Here's a pic just after I installed mine.
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chabanais Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2002 Posts: 4866
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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I had them when I first got my Bus and they dented the nose. _________________ "I spud therefore I yam." |
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asdad Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks richparker for the quick reply! Yes, I was referring to the overriders exactly as you show. Great idea about flattening out the bumper brackets, I will try that out. _________________ 1971 Westfalia - 1600cc DP - S069-1 - Pastell White
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16806 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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chabanais wrote: |
I had them when I first got my Bus and they dented the nose. |
^^^^^^^this
on a good day, they are super close to the nose. _________________
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51060 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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If we are discussing the bus in your avatar pic you'll have to unbend the bumper first. From here it looks like the brackets are tweaked from an oldschool towtruck. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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khalimadeath Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 768 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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I dont personally like them and I will be selling mine. If anyone is interested PM me. They were painted with what looks like spray paint at some point. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Early Bay Bumper Guard fit |
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I've recently purchased 4 ea. bumper guards (over riders) from West Coast Metric to be installed on a customers 1971 bus. Simple answer is that they have to be cut in order to fit.
Here's a picture of my own bus with original over riders. You can see the aftermarket one held in place behind the OEM
Here's the aftermarket lined up
This morning I sawed off 1/2 inch. Later, we'll see how it turns out. The thing is this should have been a simple job, and it's not.
Here's the nose but the rails have been shimmed down and they almost hit. Those haven't been cut, yet.
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Early Bay Bumper Guard fit |
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Make sure the bumper mounting brackets have not been pushed in or bent.
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Early Bay Bumper Guard fit |
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Tim, maybe the pics don't show it clearly enough but when held up together, the aftermarket guard is clearly 1/2" too big. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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MikeSoCal Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 47 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:32 am Post subject: Re: Early Bay Bumper Guard fit |
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I'm looking for a set of these (front and rear) for my 71. It's so frusterating to hear that they cannot copy the original design exactly. Are there any aftermarket ones out there with the right angle to avoid hitting the nose? The vendors should have returned all of them instead of accepting and selling. That's bad business and I have a feeling all of them out there are made by the same people. _________________ Restoring a 1971 VW Westfalia |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16806 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Early Bay Bumper Guard fit |
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my OE ones I pulled off of my single cab were just like the aftermarket ones pictured. straight across the back.
as I said earlier....they are stupid close to the body. now, mine were VWoA and there is a chance they had a couple of different manufacturers of them, but every one I have seen has been straight in the back. I sold 1 set and had a couple of dinged up ones. I may have shit canned them, but I will look to see if I have any photos. _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6937 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Early Bay Bumper Guard fit |
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Yes, there is no doubt that they sit close to the nose and are just for like looks. I would imagine that most bus owners are careful out on the road and doing their part to avoid accidents. I have the spare on my nose, that’s causing more damage the the overriders that aren’t even touching it. Also, I’m pretty sure with with size of the cars, trucks, suvs and crossovers these days my tire is gonna be the first thing that gets hit. _________________ __________
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7601
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Early Bay Bumper Guard fit |
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richparker wrote: |
I’m pretty sure with with size of the cars, trucks, suvs and crossovers these days my tire is gonna be the first thing that gets hit. |
Yep Rich you’re right, but the bumper guards look great.
Random thought and off topic:
IMHO, You gotta a better chance in a crash with a 2017 Chevy Suburban then a 1972 Chevy Suburban. Not implying overriders help in a crash. Seen some nasty bus accidents Stu, Colin, and more. They walked away. Makes me think we are better protected now by modern car crumple zones then back in the day when our buses were new. Back in 1989 we smashed into a 1972 Ford LTD (who ran a red light) we were doing 55 in my buddy’s new 89 Jetta. We folded up like an accordion. We walked away with bruises. The LTD drove away. Guess I’m just being optimistic our buses benefit from other modern cars safety improvements. I still have the rad Technics component stereo system from the settlement
First crumple zone in a production car was the 1967 Mercedes Heckflosse.
(Sorry guys for my rambling on and TMI) don’t want this to hijack.
Now back to more bumper guard talk. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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MikeSoCal Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 47 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: Early Bay Bumper Guard fit |
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Thanks for the replies. I'm only looking to get these for looks. If I was to crash I would have much bigger concerns (like my safety). If anyone has any OG ones they are looking to sell, please let me know. There are some remade in fiberglass in the classifieds that would even work. Anyone have any experience with those? _________________ Restoring a 1971 VW Westfalia |
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chabanais Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2002 Posts: 4866
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Early Bay Bumper Guard fit |
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The mess up your bumpers and can dent your nose.
I had em but when I had my Bus re-done I left them off. _________________ "I spud therefore I yam." |
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