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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22463 Location: Escondido CA
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dc Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: Kitsap Peninsula
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Sunday was the Fall Meet-up at the XXX in Issaquah.
Overall, the truck drove well - gotta get that gas gauge working
Weather was great and meeting and greeting was nice- pretty much the last show of the season around here.
Home on the ferry-
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dannyX24 Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2016 Posts: 82 Location: Simi Valley, California
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Such a nice looking ride! I have gone thru your whole thread and its good inspiration to get my truck started! |
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dc Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: Kitsap Peninsula
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Thanks!
Good luck with the Ghia/T3/Truck _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:00 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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dc wrote: |
Re-worked the bed cover to reduce weight and used black convertible top material instead of the vinyl.
Took it to a mini-truck show
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I like it. It looks finished compared to the competition.
The black and cream colors work well with it too. Nice job on it. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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dc Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: Kitsap Peninsula
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Working on the Wide Five Project.
Got the drums switched on the rear...they fit nice! Those are the FRONT tires that you see on the rear right now. Waiting on some taller tires to be mounted and then I will continue with the converting of the front
In the end, the front and rear will get a mild lowering--- 175 55 in front and 185 65 in the rear --- remember, those are 14" wheels _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia |
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dannyX24 Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2016 Posts: 82 Location: Simi Valley, California
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Looks Awesome! Getting caps for the wheels or gonna rock the black steelies as is? |
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dc Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: Kitsap Peninsula
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Just gonna run without caps- removed all the clips before powder coating
The drums are super cleaned and detailed- I want to highlight the pin wheels- got the 185s mounted and bolted to the rear. Next is taking apart the front end😬 _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia |
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69 Notchback Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2011 Posts: 714 Location: Bailey Co
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:43 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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That truck has come a long way since the 2012 Invasion in CO. Good work! |
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dc Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: Kitsap Peninsula
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Ready for some feedback and advice on the Wide 5 conversion.
This weekend, I finally started converting the front end:
I had NOS tie rod ends in my stash - so that was good. Everything came off the car OK (the four lug parts) and the five lug stuff is going on well so far.
I'm missing some parts -
I need star adjusters for each wheel cylinder
What about the spindle/shaft itself? I've got the keyed washer and retaining nut - but shouldn't there be another washer and/or adjusting nut?
What about my bearings? They are already in my drums (not pictured) - they look OK - but I'm not sure of their history - Should they be replaced or re-packed - ?
How many sets of bearings are there?
What about my pad springs- they look a little short - whats the the sequence of putting this together?
What about the brake fluid line? I was careful not to damage them- but what the recommended order of operations to re-assemble?
I have the '64 Clymer's manual and I'm reading carefully - but sometime you all explain it better
Excited to get this back together! _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia |
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dc Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: Kitsap Peninsula
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Ok- A virtual trip to ISP West is helping me see the parts I need...
definitely need to order bearings and misc. hardware. _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia |
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dc Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: Kitsap Peninsula
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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How about these parts from ISP?
OIL SEAL
311405641
$14.95 X 2 = $29.90
LOCK PLATE NEW
311405681
TYPE: NEW
$0.95 X 2 = $1.90
BEARING
311405625A
$9.95 X 2 = $19.90 Looks like OUTER in pictures BUT just about the same number as J-Bugs listed INNER - see below
NUT
N111643
$4.95 - This is the left-hand thread spindle nut - I already have ONE - do I need TWO and the right side as well?
AND these parts from J-Bugs:
VW Inner Front Wheel Bearing, Beetle, Ghia 1966-68, Type 3 62-68
Part Number: 311405625
2 X $10.95 = $21.90
VW Front Brake Hose, 440mm M/F, Beetle, Ghia 1965-66, Bus 55-67, Type 3 62-67, Thing 73-74
Part Number: 211611701
2 X $14.95 = $29.90 (My current hoses are for the '71 set-up - maybe a bit short?)
VW Brake Adjusting Nut, Each
Part Number: 113609205A
4 X $5.95 = $23.80 Will these fit a '63 Type 3 Wheel cylinder?
VW Drum Brake Adjusting Screw, Each
Part Number: 131609209
4 X $3.95 = $15.80 Will these fit?
Are there plastic/rubber seals for the inner and out bearings that I'm missing?
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ataraxia Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 4504 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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If you're sticking with 1964 spindle nuts - you need two per spindle because they're essentially jam nuts. I've probably got a pile of them I'm not going to use - for $5, I'll send you my stash so you have spares. I've swapped to disc brakes so I don't need them.
I probably have most/all of what you need - including the bearings...I'll have a look in the AM and let you know if you're interested. |
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dc Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: Kitsap Peninsula
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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That would be SO appreciated!
Looks like I only have one good bearing (out of four) -it's an outer. _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia |
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ataraxia Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 4504 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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dc wrote: |
That would be SO appreciated!
Looks like I only have one good bearing (out of four) -it's an outer. |
Sent you a PM. |
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69 Notchback Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2011 Posts: 714 Location: Bailey Co
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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looking good! its come a long way since the 2012 invasion. good work! |
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HenryHacker Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2017 Posts: 30 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Came across this thread while thinking about that ´64 truck for sale in Idaho..
Very nice build you have! I like how you maintained a stock feel while doing something completely custom. Did you keep the red dash? |
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dc Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: Kitsap Peninsula
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Yep!
Still have the red dash.
I feel for our friend in Idaho with the '64 Truck (like mine!) - I know he needs to sell it. If I didn't already have one or had more room... _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia |
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dc Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 1426 Location: Kitsap Peninsula
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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Thanks for some more of the parts I need to Josh!
OK-
Do I have what I need?
Here's the order of parts working outward from the axle/spindle-
Oil Seal
Inner Race
Inner Bearing
the drum itself!
Outer Race
Outer Bearing
Thrust Washer
Nut
Lock Plate
Nut
Hub Cap
Is there a spacer before the seal, like on the early Beetle spindles?
I've been reading the procedures for packing the bearings and adjusting the tension on the outer nuts and hardware. Should have all the parts gathered to get this together this weekend...
EXCEPT - pressing out the old races and pressing in the new ones. Not sure about how that goes. _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia |
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ataraxia Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 4504 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw |
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That box showed up awfully quick!
I used to use an old socket to drive out the old bearing races until I decided to spend the money on a tool designed for the job. If there's a Harbor Freight near you - it might be worth it to buy the tool since you can also use it to install the new races in the drums. Or you can do it using a socket that's the same OD as the ID of the drum and sits flat on the race (around the rim).
Here's a diagram that you may find useful for assembly:
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