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 Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:54 am Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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Why not ask the person selling the parts what the difference is?
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busman78
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:10 am Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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It is obvious, you need to not just read the two descriptions but comprehend what they define about the product.
Here is a hint: Spindles |
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jspbtown
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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What is the difference in regards to a beam whether you use dropped spindles or standard spindles?
I didn't think there was abeam difference. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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| the adjustable lets you adjust the drop to your likeing. not just drop 2.5". what if 2" is just right and 2.5 is too much? or you need 3" to get the look you want? so get the drop beam and the drop spindials....and dial in your drop!! |
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Rockbound
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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| busman78 wrote: |
It is obvious, you need to not just read the two descriptions but comprehend what they define about the product.
Here is a hint: Spindles |
Yes I read and one says for dropped spindles the other doesn't. That is obvious.. id like to understand the difference between the 2 beams. Why is one for dropped spindles and the other not. Is it an adjustment thing a set preload, I don't understand why one could or couldn't be used with or without dropped spindles or stock spindles. |
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Rockbound
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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| jspbtown wrote: |
What is the difference in regards to a beam whether you use dropped spindles or standard spindles?
I didn't think there was abeam difference. |
Yes that is what I am wondering. If I purchase one for stock spindles and decide I want to use drop spindles is the one I purchased now not usable? |
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Rockbound
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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| mark tucker wrote: |
| the adjustable lets you adjust the drop to your likeing. not just drop 2.5". what if 2" is just right and 2.5 is too much? or you need 3" to get the look you want? so get the drop beam and the drop spindials....and dial in your drop!! |
I understand how the adjustments work.. what I don't understand is why the beams are different. Why one is specifically for drop spindles and one is not. What makes them different? The spindles attach to the trailing arms which attach to the beam and spring leaves.
I would assume that it's a preset adjustment thing but I'm conserved if I order one or the other and decide it's not the way I want to go (drop spindles) will the beam still work? |
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busman78
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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| Okay here is another hint - Shock Towers |
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Sharp64
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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| busman78 wrote: |
| Okay here is another hint - Shock Towers |
Here's another hint. You don't give the answer because you don't know.
OP, based on what I'm seeing in the 2016 Empi catalog inset on page 202, the difference is that the adjusters on the one made for dropped spindles are welded in a more "neutral" position to allow for both raising and lowering to fine tune the ride height.
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busman78
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: What the difference is between these 2 beams? |
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| I am in error, stuck in the back of the gray matter was when lowering the shock towers changed at the same time requiring a shorter shock. My apologizes. |
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jason
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: What the difference is between these 2 beams? |
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| You can tell by the pictures that the adjuster is in different spot between the two. |
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Rockbound
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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| busman78 wrote: |
| Okay here is another hint - Shock Towers |
Here's another hint. You don't give the answer because you don't know.
OP, based on what I'm seeing in the 2016 Empi catalog inset on page 202, the difference is that the adjusters on the one made for dropped spindles are welded in a more "neutral" position to allow for both raising and lowering to fine tune the ride height.
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Rockbound
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: can someone please tell me what the difference is between these |
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| c21darrel wrote: |
| I don't know for sure but I agree with you in guessing one is indexed lower to start with. There is only so much adjustment available on the beam. There are lots of good beam builders out there that will provide exactly what you desire, no guessing. Why buy EMPI? No one local? |
Mainly price.. not sure If anyone local can supply one.. I'm going to try to do it myself actually. Worst case I have to buy one and I'm out the cost of the adjusters. |
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c21darrel
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Rockbound
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: What the difference is between these 2 beams? |
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Yes i saw that too, thanks for posting. I also know i need everything else inside if i where to purchase eitjer of these beams.. I am aware they are empty. Thanks again though. I've decided I'm going to make my own. |
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Rockbound
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:46 am Post subject: Re: What the difference is between these 2 beams? |
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| Rockbound wrote: |
Yes i saw that too, thanks for posting. I also know i need everything else inside if i where to purchase eitjer of these beams.. I am aware they are empty. Thanks again though. I've decided I'm going to make my own. |
Sounds good.
There are several "how to" threads on narrowing and welding in adjusters. They make it a lot easier than trying to figure it all out on your own. Good luck. |
yep I've been through a ton of them, they are what made me decide to do it. love this forum. tons of great info here! thanks again! |
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