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pgtips Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2009 Posts: 860 Location: essex
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: sliding door seal orientation |
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Hi,
Couple of Qs about seals/rubbers in general and my sliding door seal.
1975 lhd bay
I offered it up last night to fit it (new sliding door rubber) , pushed it in all around and noticed its got a slightly different profile each side.
Its not a true square so I can only be 180 degrees out.
Best way to describe it, one side has got a 'flap' bit of rubber, the other doesn't.
If this is making any sense could someone tell me, does the 'flap' side seat/go on the hinge side or the lock side.
Pic below of the 'flap' side and other side. The Q is which one goes on the hinge side and which one on the lock side
The flap profile (currently fitted on the hinge side
and the other side that I put running down the lock/handle side
My second Q is the rubbers seat nicely but do you also glue them into place. Probably answers my own Q but I can't see as it would hurt to bond or tack it in for extra holding.
Thanks
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51125 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like you have it in right, the longer flap goes at the back and both face forward, how's it look with the door closed? any hanging out?
Unfortunately none of the replacement seals have exactly the right profile on all the sides, some seem to be blurred into a one profile fits all compromise. At least yours is put together right, I got one a few weeks ago that was assembled 1/2 backwards or inside out, had to cut it apart and reglue it together in the right order. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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pgtips Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2009 Posts: 860 Location: essex
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks BD (as always) ,
I haven't fully closed it yet, taking it slowly, I noticed when I gently pushed it together there looked like some creasing on the top rhs corner above the lock (mines a LHD) but that might be due to it not being fully seated in the groove yet. I need to tweak the lock and the catch is not locating as smoothly as I'd like, it engages ok but doesn't meet the locating pin cleanly and I'm out of adjustment on that.
It looks to me like my catch needs to be shimmed up a couple of mm to nicely locate the plastic locating pin inside the cover.
Thanks again,
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mygreenbus Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2007 Posts: 1154 Location: Palm Coast, FL
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:26 am Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Looks like you have it in right, the longer flap goes at the back and both face forward, how's it look with the door closed? any hanging out?
Unfortunately none of the replacement seals have exactly the right profile on all the sides, some seem to be blurred into a one profile fits all compromise. At least yours is put together right, I got one a few weeks ago that was assembled 1/2 backwards or inside out, had to cut it apart and reglue it together in the right order. |
I love search. And the same knucklehead must have out my seal together as Busdaddy. My old seal was so shot I had no idea how to orient it nor figure out that the flap on mine is glued in backwards. _________________ '72 Bus |
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Sage79 Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2008 Posts: 433 Location: Holland MI
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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I installed my Bus Depot seal the only way I could see that made any sense It seems to work just fine but there is a flap facing forward hanging out a bit when the door is closed. At the back there's a nice clean bead just visible. So you are saying the vertical pieces were assembled wrong from the manufacturer? _________________ Dirk
'79 Westy 2.0FI
'73 Sportsmobile 1.7dual Solex 003Auto - now my daughter's
'77 delux 2.0FI 090Auto - now my son's |
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mygreenbus Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2007 Posts: 1154 Location: Palm Coast, FL
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Sage79 wrote: |
I installed my Bus Depot seal the only way I could see that made any sense It seems to work just fine but there is a flap facing forward hanging out a bit when the door is closed. At the back there's a nice clean bead just visible. So you are saying the vertical pieces were assembled wrong from the manufacturer? |
I am saying on my piece, the flap was installed backwards, flap facing back. The flap goes to the read of the bus. _________________ '72 Bus |
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Hmmmm..., been a couple O months since I did it but IIRC the rear flap was facing back instead of forward and the longer flap was on the front instead of the rear. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:49 pm Post subject: Sliding door seal orientation |
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[url=https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8577515#8577515]Sliding door seal orientation[/url] |
Thanks to all that posted information!
Top has two lips / Bottom has one lip
Left longer Vert flap faces forward / Right two lips
As pictured
Left
Right
Note seals come in many different profiles from Mnf. to Mnf.
thnx mayor ratwell
Top/Right Note two lips on Top
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/SlidingDoor.html
Top/Left Note double lip on top
Top/Right
Left
Bottom/right
So to conclude
-----------------------[------- Top has two lips--------]
Left longer Vert flap |----------------------------------|Right two lips
-----------------------[-----Bottom has one lip--------]
Good luck
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: sliding door seal orientation |
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the Brazilian seals don't fit well. The German ones like the original, with gray with talc on them usually work well. If it is a Brazilian seal one side is way too long and one side is the wrong profile to fit a 70's bay properly. That was my experience. When I got the right one it went in as easy as it was replacing the one on my 1971. Clipped right in and worked the first time.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=335025&highlight=sliding+door+seal
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