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surfbus23 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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Turns out what you want to search for are "alternator capacitors". You'll get nowhere with "suppression condenser". Even then I couldn't find any that looked flat AND would fit over the B+ terminal. Just purchased a space version and will modify it. |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Tcash Samba Member
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21512 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:52 am Post subject: Re: 914 Alternator wiring harness |
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If memory serves it should. I have "stolen" alternators from 412 with L-jet to go into D-jet...so it "should" ....let me check my books.
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Bleyseng Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2005 Posts: 4752 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: 914 Alternator wiring harness |
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raygreenwood wrote: |
If memory serves it should. I have "stolen" alternators from 412 with L-jet to go into D-jet...so it "should" ....let me check my books.
Ray |
Yes, but it might be a bit short in length. I'd have to measure as it's a close match _________________ 70 Ghia Black convert-9/69 build date-stock w/133k 1600 SP-barn find now with a rebuilt tranny and engine
77 Westy 2.0L w/Ljet, Camper Special engine-95hp and with LSD!(sold)
76 Porsche 914 2.1L L20c, 120hp Djet (sold)
87 Syncro Westy Titan Red 2.1L 2 knob 100k miles |
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tommu Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2011 Posts: 618 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:29 am Post subject: Re: 914 Alternator wiring harness |
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Wondering if anyone has tried this? _________________ |
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surfbus23 Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2016 Posts: 383
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:03 am Post subject: Re: 914 Alternator wiring harness |
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tommu wrote: |
Wondering if anyone has tried this? |
Looks the same to me. |
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surfbus23 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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Thought I'd try and do something helpful, so uploaded this template for the alternator gasket for anyone in the future to use. It's from a NOS gasket from SGKent's stash.
Print it out at 300 dpi and you're good to go with a factory template. I made mine from the link below. Scissors for the outside, razor blade on the inside and drill out the holes for a nice looking gasket. This is factory spec so make sure to give yourself a little clearance on the outside unless you have a perfect steady hand.
https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Gasket-9615MRG-Compresse...per+gasket
I like it better than the original paper thin gasket because it gets the backing tin farther away from the metal of the alternator.
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tommu Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2011 Posts: 618 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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surfbus23 wrote: |
Thought I'd try and do something helpful, so uploaded this template for the alternator gasket for anyone in the future to use. It's from a NOS gasket from SGKent's stash.
Print it out at 300 dpi and you're good to go with a factory template. I made mine from the link below. Scissors for the outside, razor blade on the inside and drill out the holes for a nice looking gasket. This is factory spec so make sure to give yourself a little clearance on the outside unless you have a perfect steady hand.
https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Gasket-9615MRG-Compresse...per+gasket
I like it better than the original paper thin gasket because it gets the backing tin farther away from the metal of the alternator.
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Thank you, that's really helpful. I'll try and do the same for EGR and CSV gaskets. _________________ |
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alman72 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2014 Posts: 2573 Location: MICHIGAN
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:47 am Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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T-Cash... Gasket Template sticky? or page simply named gasket templates with all of them in one place? |
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5780 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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I need to add a contribution, here, but am not at home where I have the stuff to add (photos, etc.)
What I can say is that the gaskets I got from Steve Kent actually did not fit well, and I intend to send them back to him (It's in the "to-do" pile.) The holes were not in the right place, and it was a bit of a force fit over the threaded studs in the alternator housing.
What I found worked best was to use the backing plate from the alternator as a template, drawing directly on the thick paper or foam gasket material. That way, you have a guaranteed fit. I made several at once, and I will never have to install another alternator without a gasket.
Also, using a hole punch for the holes is cleaner than drilling. _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
http://vw.tauxe.net
1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22639 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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You should photo that with a scale to make it a bit easier to reproduce electronically _________________ .ssS! |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50337
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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This is another route that people could go. Find three washers of suitable thickness to use as spacers to hold the cover out a bit. Put the washers over the three long bolts on the alternator. Now smear some high temperature silicone along the cover where the gasket would normally sit, wipe the silicone from the areas where the washers will sit against the cover. Let the silicone skin over well but not through harden. Install the cover and tighten the nuts down. You now have a custom gasket that should last for decades.
If the cover is warped and doesn't sit flat an extra washer embedded in the silicone half way between each hole should help shape the cover as it is installed. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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jtauxe wrote: |
I need to add a contribution, here, but am not at home where I have the stuff to add (photos, etc.)
What I can say is that the gaskets I got from Steve Kent actually did not fit well, and I intend to send them back to him (It's in the "to-do" pile.) The holes were not in the right place, and it was a bit of a force fit over the threaded studs in the alternator housing.
What I found worked best was to use the backing plate from the alternator as a template, drawing directly on the thick paper or foam gasket material. That way, you have a guaranteed fit. I made several at once, and I will never have to install another alternator without a gasket.
Also, using a hole punch for the holes is cleaner than drilling. |
two other people told me that then they changed the clocking (rotated or turned over the gasket) and got back to me again saying they fit perfectly once they did that. Those came from VW in Germany and had the correct part number on the packaging so you might try re-clocking them. I plan to redo the bearings and brushes in my own 55 amp alternator in a couple weeks and will check it out. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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THall Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2010 Posts: 324 Location: Verona, WI
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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I'm going to be installing a new alternator this weekend.
I already shortened the one bolt and use a smaller diameter washer on the other.
Is there any reason I shouldn't use a cork gasket between the alternator and backing plate to gain some extra clearance? _________________ '78 Westy - 2.0 FI |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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Maybe what we need is for someone to repro plastic covers for the alternator. |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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THall wrote: |
I'm going to be installing a new alternator this weekend.
I already shortened the one bolt and use a smaller diameter washer on the other.
Is there any reason I shouldn't use a cork gasket between the alternator and backing plate to gain some extra clearance? |
I don't see a problem with it. The only thing it is sealing is air.
Cut an isolator out of a piece of plastic and install here.
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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Does anyone have some good pics of the alternator sealing ring installed or the correct orientation on the alternator? I was thinking about making my own since mine is pretty beat up. I was planning on using a 1/8" thick silicone rubber sheet with a durometer rating of 60-70 (were they originally hard plastic or soft rubber?).
Its for a 77 so the odd shaped one. _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
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kool kombi 79 Samba Member
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SamboSamba22 Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2015 Posts: 2772 Location: Benton, Arkansas
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Alternator Type IV (4) |
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55 Amp Alternator Question:
On my original ‘74 alternator, I have a thick (8 gauge?) wire coming off the alternator leading to confusion on what exactly this ties into. On the schematic, I have no visual of such blue wire.
Small blue wire - indicator light
Large red wire - starter 50
Brown wire - ground
Green wire - isssss????
Trying to figure this out, something’s array as I had it hooked up previously with a running bus but resulting in ruining a voltage regulator.
Any insight is wonderfully apprciated.
Sam _________________ The Bus Barn Ltd. Co.
Oct. ’67 Double Cab (’68 Crew Cab)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44412.png]Click to view image[/URL]
March '69 Delivery (Panel Bus)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44414.png]Click to view image[/URL] |
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