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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51125 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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A trip to the wrecking yard is hella fun (at least for me, but I also enjoyed trips to the dump with Dad when I was little), there's likely not too many 80's Hondas there any more, but I was under the hood of a 96 Nissan 240SX today and it had a similar bend in the breather hose. Lots of cars have hydrocarbon resistant hoses that turn corners, don't look at the whole hose, just look for a bend.
And be careful or you'll end up bringing home all sorts of cool shit that you didn't even go looking for, FOCUS! _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Terminatez Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2015 Posts: 340 Location: Sun Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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Luckily I live down the street from a lot of wrecking yards.
Most of them don't let you into the cars.. you can only ask the guys for a part and they'll go hunt them down for you.
There is only 1 that is pick-your-own-parts but they recently got rid of all their cars and replaced them with stuff over year 2000.
I will try the wrecking yards first. I'll be taking the black pipe that the elbow connects to and just ask them to find some type of elbow that will fit the pipe. I think that will be the best way to find an elbow from these wrecking yards.
Now, for the time being I will just be plugging the fitting and try to be extra careful when pumping to avoid spilling. _________________ 1972 Westfalia P30 hardtop Campmobile [On-going Restoration]
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51125 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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Good plan.
Explain what you are doing and maybe they will allow you in with an escort, some just don't want you in there because of theft and damaging other parts while removing what you need, some may have insurance issues with the public in the jobsite. Most wreckers have a shelf full of engines already removed, many may have remnants of cut hoses still attached that will suit your needs, if they won't let you in the yard ask about the warehouse. If it's attached to the gassy side of a manifold or on a rocker cover it's what you need, avoid obvious heater/coolant hose though. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Terminatez Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2015 Posts: 340 Location: Sun Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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I don't see why they would charge me ~$20 for something that they probably were never going to get rid of anyways, but if they do..that will be the same price as the vacuum hose from ECS Tuning including shipping. Do you think it would still be worth it to choose their maybe ripped off item over the ECS vacuum hose? _________________ 1972 Westfalia P30 hardtop Campmobile [On-going Restoration]
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51125 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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That's up to you, you'll have to weigh convenience against time..... , the OEM hose from a car at the wrecker is known to put up with gas fumes and the like, some of the aftermarket stuff that claims to be isn't always up to the job once the payment clears. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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barefootwestie Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 1551 Location: Johns Island, SC
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:33 am Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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Wonder if this part might substitute for the NLA
https://www.vwheritage.com/021129639-elbow-airfilter-lhs
It's 11.5mm which I think it what the NLA part is. Thoughts? _________________ My Bus Restoration Blog
https://myvolkswagenbus.com/
1973 Westfalia
"Getting better....one repair at a time."
Other VW's owned through the years, in no particular order:
'67 Beetle,
'67 Ghia Hardtop,
'72 Ghia Convertible,
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VWSunny72 Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2014 Posts: 163 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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As someone posted above, i bought this part in 2014. It's not a sharp 90 degree turn, but its worked just fine.
http://www.coolairvw.co.uk/Search/1/12/0/211201157a/NA/Best.html _________________ ------------------------
I am owned by a 1972 Westy named Sunny. She has a 1979 2.0L engine w/ dual Weber IDF 40s. |
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barefootwestie Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 1551 Location: Johns Island, SC
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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Yeah, tried that myself. Just trying to find something better and close to origina. _________________ My Bus Restoration Blog
https://myvolkswagenbus.com/
1973 Westfalia
"Getting better....one repair at a time."
Other VW's owned through the years, in no particular order:
'67 Beetle,
'67 Ghia Hardtop,
'72 Ghia Convertible,
'72 Westfalia |
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Wasted youth Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 5134 Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:37 am Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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Terminatez wrote: |
I don't see why they would charge me ~$20 for something that they probably were never going to get rid of anyways, but if they do..that will be the same price as the vacuum hose from ECS Tuning including shipping. Do you think it would still be worth it to choose their maybe ripped off item over the ECS vacuum hose? |
They will charge you what they can because they are in the business of selling junk. Regardless whether half gets crushed or not, if you show up then you are interested in something they might have. If they just gave parts away, no matter how small or insignificant, what kind of business model is that? |
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Terminatez Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2015 Posts: 340 Location: Sun Valley, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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I had no luck at the junk parts, they didn't want to actually help me out. A few took my number and said they would search, but to no avail.
Anyways, I went ahead and bought the item from ECSTuning.
My thoughts:
It fits tightly, but makes a secure lock. You can probably use it without any clamps for sure. I applied a little silicon lube around the metal pipe that way I can slide the elbow in an appropriate amount.
The item itself doesn't feel or look cheap. It looks like a proper replacement for whatever newer cars it was made for. Great for the 72 vent.
The shape isn't a full 90 degrees, but it's very close and doesn't seem like the small bend (to make it 90) will have any affect on the elbow.
It has to white lines on it, seems to me like the second line (closer to the center of the elbow) would be a great cut line to make the elbow similar in size. I have yet to install the rod on the tank, but will take updated pictures of how much I had to cut (if any) to make it fit well.
I can't speak for longevity, but like I said before the elbow looks solid. The original clamps fit on it, but I'll be using worm clamps.
Update installed:
In case someone is also looking for the other hose on the other side of the metal pipe.. I used a GATES 4219XL Fuel Line PCV/EEC . I found this at my FLAP. Size is 1/2" it's a tight fit, very tight. Also used a bit of silicon lube just to slide it in a little more than when dry.
_________________ 1972 Westfalia P30 hardtop Campmobile [On-going Restoration]
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malcolm2 Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2011 Posts: 1272 Location: Mount Juliet, TN
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:54 am Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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Amazon has these.... cut to fit hose. Lots of different angles etc....
_________________ My Toys: '75 Porsche 914, '92 Ski Nautique and now a 1972 VW Transporter Deluxe (punch list fixing) |
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cmonSTART Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2014 Posts: 1915 Location: NH
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:00 am Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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Those are actually really useful. The vacuum line between my plenum and AAR is from one of those. _________________ '78 Bus 2.0FI
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tootype2crazy Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2007 Posts: 1276 Location: St. Louis Missouri
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22640 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:23 am Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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For the love of the Creator please stop using those kindergarten hose clamps and put real clamps on stuff _________________ .ssS! |
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malcolm2 Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2011 Posts: 1272 Location: Mount Juliet, TN
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:23 am Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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Abscate wrote: |
For the love of the Creator please stop using those kindergarten hose clamps and put real clamps on stuff |
Can we get a picture of your “kindergarten” clamp? _________________ My Toys: '75 Porsche 914, '92 Ski Nautique and now a 1972 VW Transporter Deluxe (punch list fixing) |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:08 am Post subject: Re: 211 201 157A NLA? Whats the best work around? |
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Don't really know how long this would hold up, might make it quite a while, might not. Available online from Walmart and others.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/HPS-High-Temp-7-16-ID-4...QAQAvD_BwE
Buy one throw it in a jar filled with gas and let it sit in the shed for a year and see how mushy it ends up. |
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