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birdmanp Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:39 am Post subject: Spray Adhesive Nightmare! |
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Previous owner stripped the Weekender interior, and covered the ENTIRE interior with speaker box carpet. Removing the carpet has been tough, but the residue is a problem. Anyone have any experience with something like this? I have tried the wife's nail polish remover, brake cleaner, carburetor cleaner, and Goo Gone. This stuff is on so thick, that none of those make a dent in them. I tried a steel wire wheel, but it removes paint along with the adhesive. I think it needs some form of gel to put on it and "soak" for several minutes, then scrape off with plastic putty knife. Can anyone recommend a product or method?
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51154 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:50 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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Heat gun and a plastic scraper followed by a 3M stripe eraser wheel and maybe laquer thinner. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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birdmanp Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2006 Posts: 85 Location: Spartanburg, SC
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:52 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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I thought about using the stripe remover wheel, but figured the screw holes and sheet metal edges would eat it alive. I hadn't thought about the heat gun...on my way to garage now! _________________ '71 Bus (ex weekender someone stripped - in process of converting to "8" passenger)
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Hoody Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:58 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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Get yourself a respirator and s gallon of Xylene. I would have some fans set up from afar to move the air. Work in square foot areas at a time. Paint it on and it should eat right through it. I would use a plastic scraper. Test it in a area that doesn't matter first to see if it removes the paint. Good luck! |
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birdmanp Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2006 Posts: 85 Location: Spartanburg, SC
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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Okay, so the heat gun works to remove all the leftover fuzz, but by the time it gets hot enough to peel the glue off, a plastic scraper will melt, and a metal putty knife takes the paint off with the glue. Off to the store to get some xylene or gel Goo Gone. _________________ '71 Bus (ex weekender someone stripped - in process of converting to "8" passenger)
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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I 'think' it was acetone that removed old glue and residue for me. I've also had luck with Goof off as well. It removed the original carpet glue on my 67 that was 50 years old. I let it soak and it did take some elbow grease. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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alman72 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2014 Posts: 2573 Location: MICHIGAN
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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wont the xlylene take the paint off too? |
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williamM Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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OR- you could be the dirty rotten PO who just glued over top of the old glue- (apologies to "stock natzi" )-- some times I'd rather adjust valves- _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
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alaskadan Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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Most of those things will eat paint. Glue residue really sucks when you are tryin not harm paint below. Mineral spirits shouldn't hurt paint but needs time to work. Soak a rag in it and clip it up over an area to work. Plastic over that helps limit evaporation too. I had to get the old glue off the roof of my van where the mouse habitrail insulation was. Pita but I wasn't worried about the paint. |
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avoll Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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MEK will take it off but the smell will gag you.
There really isn't no easy way to get it off from my experience.
I ended up wire wheeling and sanding the whole inside and painting.
Defiantly be easiest to cover what you can back up with something and just focus on removing the rest.
If I had to do it over again, I would strip the bus of anything that would come out/off and have someone wet blast the paint and glue off. The glass sand makes a mess though. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:07 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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Without knowing the glue you will need to try acetone, MEK, and thinner , xylene on a small area and see what dissolves it. All of those chemicals are different polarity and soften a different class of adhesives.
What they do all share is the need for lots of fresh air ventilation and outdoor air movement. All of the chemicals are nasty _________________ .ssS! |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
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Terminatez Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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Most likely this.
You can use anything made specifically for removing adhesive... I'm sure there are other chemicals that you can buy at home depot that would work.
Of course if you go this route wear a mask, open all the windows and use a fan(s) to ventilate while you're working. Also try not to smoke or have any open flames near the bus.
You're going to fuck up the paint regardless of whether you scrape or use chemicals. Just cover it back up with proper panels and flooring, maybe even repaint it. _________________ 1972 Westfalia P30 hardtop Campmobile [On-going Restoration]
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TomC Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2010 Posts: 27 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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Have you tried plain old gasoline? I was in the same situation as you and I was getting pretty frustrated with Goo Gone, etc. not touching the adhesive, when my son tried some gas on a spot and to my surprise it worked like a charm! It softened the adhesive and didn't harm the paint.
Of course, your mileage may vary according to the chemistry of the adhesive. Try as many solvents as you can, but start in a hidden spot that's easy to repair.
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birdmanp Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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WOW! Will definitely have to try this one! I can't imagine the wife will be excited if it works (gasoline odor gives her headaches). Did you use anything to neutralize the smell after removing the adhesive? Or was it just father time and good ventilation?
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Have you tried plain old gasoline? I was in the same situation as you and I was getting pretty frustrated with Goo Gone, etc. not touching the adhesive, when my son tried some gas on a spot and to my surprise it worked like a charm! It softened the adhesive and didn't harm the paint.
Of course, your mileage may vary according to the chemistry of the adhesive. Try as many solvents as you can, but start in a hidden spot that's easy to repair.
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_________________ '71 Bus (ex weekender someone stripped - in process of converting to "8" passenger)
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adesive Nightmare! |
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Gasoline is mostly aliphatic hydrocarbons so COLEMAN fuel or white gas will give the same solvent effect without the stink of gas. Pet ether would be even better but I don't think you can buy that in hardware stores because you can make bad things with that. _________________ .ssS! |
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