Paying to get it done

[Zundfolge1432]

Well folks hardly a week goes by and you see examples of shite repairs done by others, usually POs. Now and then you see or hear examples of outright douche bag type work being put out by businesses specializing in VW repair, pay attention as I document another example of truly fuked up work being passed off on the VW community, a little back story is in order first.

Last couple of months I've been receiving parts from a man getting out of VW hobby, probably 30-40 year accumulation, lots of desirable parts some of them NOS, at least 3 019 distributors, type 4 oil coolers, sheet metal etc etc.

Next on the pile is this 69mm cross drilled crank marked standard freshly assembled a few years ago. I decided to take it back apart just to have a look and just look at the mayhem. Whoever did this needs bitch slapped. The pics will speak for themselves. So next time you think oh maybe that's ok or that looks like it's just been done remember what you've seen here.


First off people are convinced they need to bathe rod nuts in Loctite. If you ever take one back apart you'll curse the assholes that do this. It's not needed and makes a mess

Hard to clean off and can booger the threads.

Next you look at rods and these were likely a rebuilt set from an outfit called SIR. Southwest Import Rebuilders. Back in the day you could buy a set about 20 bucks exchange. But the shit they sold back to you was sketchy look at the rod.

They were supposed to be balanced but I've seen em way off before.

Next we start looking at the bearings and it looks to me like someone installed used bearings scored and pitted just to save a couple of bucks instead of new?WTF.

Even the mains have heavy scoring you can feel with a finger nail, unbelievable

Finally I'm looking at the crank gears and probably the same jack leg that did the other magic burned the crank gear blue heating it then put gouges in it beating it on. You can heat them slightly on a hot plate even a coffee pot burner and they drop right into place. Some use a press that's ok too. Burning them blue with a torch is really ignorant and this is trash can material now.

[Zundfolge1432]

So there it is another example of fine work, probably charged the guy twenty bucks or more to do this. Next time you want to send it work out remember this. I began the above post talking about Loctite and mentioned it's neither called for in the manual nor is it needed. Earlier rods used peened nuts that is you stake with a hammer to lock them, yes it's crude but it works. The later rods used lock nuts which you torque to spec and you're done. How much easier can it get? The experts that do this also glob it on flywheel gland nuts to the point you can ruin a nut getting it back off. This stuff is unnecessary but might be not quite as bad if you use a drop, that's drop ok? Personally I've never used it and I've never had fasteners back off. Install things clean,torque to spec using a torque wrench that you know is calibrated and you won't have problems. It's pretty easy.

[slalombuggy]

For 20 years the local ACVW shop took van loads of cranks, rods and heads to SIR to have rebuilt. They always did good work and sometimes remarkable work. Looks like some novice put that together and didn't clean anything before assembly.

brad

[Zundfolge1432]

[mark tucker]

the motor in my bug when I got it had sir heads......holy sheep shit, there was more welding rod filler than oe head.....the chambers were unrecogniozeable(worse than my spelling is) as being vw chambers shaped. one guide was slip fit slipping back & forth.another had the boss broken, I cant understand how spending a few hours welding up a pair of junk heads worth more as scrap could ever make any $$$ when new vw heads with valves were around $50 each....
Ive seen this kind of shit for years on everything, not just vw. the bearings didnt show any copper so they must of been good( too bad the morons didn't know those didn't have copper in them.... witch means Im right again YOU CANT FIX STUPID.
i never trust anything I did not do. if it's new...I dont trust it, I rework it to my std's. nothing else is acceptable. well Im not so good at rebuilding light bulbs....

[Xevin]

[heimlich]

Nice write up. I've never heard good stories about red Loctite. They love putting it on until they have to take it off.
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[olspeed]

Loctite whether it is red, blue or green has a purpose especially if you are working on a piece of heavy equipment but it has no place in a VW motor
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[slalombuggy]

[airschooled]

[Buggeee]

Shout out to Zundi who's pictrographic tour of a step-by-step crank build-up brought sense to the words in my Orange Bentley Manual last winter. My bug's still running with hundreds of miles on my engine. Make that MY engine.

Hey FiringOrder - Give the bird a nut for me wouldja?

Keep Buggin Buggers... There's kids out there that have never seen one (shite you not).
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[mark tucker]

[airschooled]

[mark tucker]

518 is pretty much a "gell" thread locker. silocone has 4 places in a vw engine...cylinder bases.very sparing lee... gotta keep the spelling teachers on there tow's

[olspeed]

[mark tucker]

go ahead and use it on threads you dont want locked...... and asbestos's is safe too... the way things are written and perceived is not always what is meant..... like the dr telling my brother right after surgery on his knee...you cant over do it.... so to my brother that mean it's good to go and do any thing...... or does it really mean..dont over do it? . just because something isant labeled for a particular thing dosent mean....it wont. for a good exzample just look at...H2o whats it labeled for? and it's used for......oh somuch stuff.even drinking and firefighting...and surfing...and...cooling...and...making ice.and possibly a few more things it's not labeled to do.

[Zundfolge1432]

Probably to clarify what I was trying to say because somehow it's turned into water and effing morons. These products have legimate uses but often times it falls back onto the old thinking of " if a little is good a lot is better" please don't do that. Thanks to Cusser and the fine folks at Henkle we have these to use. Use them per the instructions. That is all.

[iowegian]

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Nice watch you're sportin' there, Jim.

[Zundfolge1432]

Vintage 1969 seiko model 6106 w/ Budweiser 10 year service award band.