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scottyrocks
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 Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:10 am Post subject: Re: Short shifter vs Classic OEM for learning to shift ? (opinions ) |
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The only reason I would say stock is because I have enough trouble reaching the knob in 1st and 3rd as it is. With that shorty, it's be an even more certifiable PITA. Caveat - I have an extension on it so I don't have to lean forward, so I favor a longer shifter.
But my reason for not suggesting stock is that it is pretty mushy with linkage that runs as far back as it does to the trans. A more precise aftermarket shifter could result in more precise action.
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turbotype1
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| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Short shifter vs Classic OEM for learning to shift ? (opinions ) |
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I would add that the VS shifter is a lot more precise or positive feeling ... so a shorter throw may be easier to learn on... it is a lot easier to drive with
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Max Welton
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| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Short shifter vs Classic OEM for learning to shift ? (opinions ) |
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| Refocusing on a new driver- stock is the only decent teaching tool. All these mentioned aftermarket thingies are rowed by experienced beetle people- not new manual drivers. |
Back when I was a new manual driver, my VW was only a few years old and still shifted like it should. When nothing is worn out yet, it's a piece of cake.
Add 45 years of wear and tear and it can be a piece of something else.
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KTPhil 
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| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Short shifter vs Classic OEM for learning to shift ? (opinions ) |
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| Max Welton wrote: |
| hitest wrote: |
| Refocusing on a new driver- stock is the only decent teaching tool. All these mentioned aftermarket thingies are rowed by experienced beetle people- not new manual drivers. |
Back when I was a new manual driver, my VW was only a few years old and still shifted like it should. When nothing is worn out yet, it's a piece of cake.
Add 45 years of wear and tear and it can be a piece of something else.
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Yep, that's why I think the coupler and bushing are far more important than the shifter itself. It will bring a consistency that will avoid confusing the novice. I would check the front tranny mount as well. |
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Max Welton
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pbenn
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Short shifter vs Classic OEM for learning to shift ? (opinions ) |
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Stock, with new bushings front and rear. The throw problem, especially to 3rd, can be fixed with a shift extension.
Really don't like the idea of a fast shift from 1st to 2nd, especially when cold. When hot it gets like butter, but I still hesitate between gears. |
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