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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:26 pm    Post subject: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

Hey Don't have a VW yet but, am looking for one, just need to get the cash together. would love a Squareback. It would most likely a running project car I could work on. I know once I get one I will be popping in here for questions. I am still going through the massive amount of forms on here. However, I hope to get this project started.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

Welcome to TheSamba! Sounds like you have the right idea, keep us updated!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

Welcome! The best advice given here is to look for the most rust-free starting point you can. Mechanicals can be rebuilt by you or many shops, but deep chassis- or body-work gets really expensive if you don't have the tools and skills.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

Buy one, then another, then another. You get the idea.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

Buy the first running 71 beetle you see (cheapest of all air cooled VWs)- become a shadetree mechanic on it first and the right squareback will come along. By then you'll be better informed and even more jacked.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

I have two 71 Beetles. What are you saying?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

Welcome to the Samba!
Read before you buy. Like we all will tell you. Come west of the Continental divide to make your purchase as they bodies suffer less rustosis.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

Thanks you all the quick tips. I have been looking at west coast cars, since i know with my dads old 80 Datsun 210 (wish he kept it) it had rust in the floors where you could see the street pas underneath you. the door sensor rusted out so he used a paint stirrer to trigger it.

So just get a 71 Beetle sine they are a bit more affordable, and are they a bit easier to work on?

And yes I have already envisioned a fleet of classic VWs for myself one day...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

You will appreciate that a squareback can haul a Lot! Do ship the best square you can find/afford on www.uShip.com if necessary or rent a UHaul tow dolly/trailer if within driving distance. We drove my son's '67 square 600 miles to buy my '69 w/automatic transmission and drove them both home without any serious problems. You do know that the square's rear seat folds down like all true station wagons. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

mrnikon wrote:
Hey Don't have a VW yet but, am looking for one, just need to get the cash together. would love a Squareback. It would most likely a running project car I could work on. I know once I get one I will be popping in here for questions. I am still going through the massive amount of forms on here. However, I hope to get this project started.

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Type III's are undervalued and underappreciated. Getting one while they're not hot is a smart move.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

under valued??? yikes!!! some of the morons around hear want $$$$$$$$ for rusted out shells..... I personaly dont think anything is undervalued.....not after eating a woffle house this am.....holykniptionshitbatman!!! dma prices were 3 x the last time I was there and that hasent been that long.....of corse I was outa town and that may be thier std prices.....I hope I didnt get a std from the ffing Shocked Wink Rolling Eyes , I do agree if you find a deal get it.some people want to sell and some want to tease but not realy sell...unless a moron comes along.dont be a moron.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

^^^^^^^^^^^^moron fetish^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

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under valued??? yikes!!! some of the morons around hear want $$$$$$$$ for rusted out shells..... I personaly dont think anything is undervalued.....not after eating a woffle house this am.....holykniptionshitbatman!!! dma prices were 3 x the last time I was there and that hasent been that long.....of corse I was outa town and that may be thier std prices.....I hope I didnt get a std from the ffing Shocked Wink Rolling Eyes , I do agree if you find a deal get it.some people want to sell and some want to tease but not realy sell...unless a moron comes along.dont be a moron.


I was looking a year or two ago and i could swear there were more out there. Also the prices dod seam a bit lower i think. Also Type 3 vs 412/411 any pros or cons for one or the other?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

Type 4s are another level of pain finding parts. Not for the novice!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

kawfee wrote:
I have two 71 Beetles. What are you saying?


They're plentiful, first of the DPs and cheap- a good combination. Facts are facts about the resale value of 71 being soft for many years- especially among 1302s.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

mark tucker wrote:
under valued??? yikes!!! some of the morons around hear want $$$$$$$$ for rusted out shells..... I personaly dont think anything is undervalued.....not after eating a woffle house this am.....holykniptionshitbatman!!! dma prices were 3 x the last time I was there and that hasent been that long.....of corse I was outa town and that may be thier std prices.....I hope I didnt get a std from the ffing Shocked Wink Rolling Eyes , I do agree if you find a deal get it.some people want to sell and some want to tease but not realy sell...unless a moron comes along.dont be a moron.

Well, when you're looking at a rusted out hulk of a 21 window for 30K, with production numbers identical to the '70 convertible I daily drive (which is worthless, I might add)...that's "overvalued". When you look at a square with production numbers right along those same lines and you can get a nice, clean driver for 10-15k, that's "undervalued".

Talk about undervalued, how about a Ghia? That's a beautiful, coachbuilt car with super-low production numbers and still less money than the same year bus. Stupid...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

KTPhil wrote:
Type 4s are another level of pain finding parts. Not for the novice!


Agreed.
Next you have to decide, early or late. I say buy the most complete, unmolested car you can afford. A little more up front can save some headaches later.
Expect that there will be issues with wiring, as PO's seem to can't fix it on their own.
Also if it's been sitting for more than 12 years, it'll probably need some brake work, and fuel hose replacement. Both (or all) seem to be some of the #1 issues these cars deal with over time. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

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Next you have to decide, early or late. I say buy the most complete, unmolested car you can afford. A little more up front can save some headaches later.
Expect that there will be issues with wiring, as PO's seem to can't fix it on their own.
Also if it's been sitting for more than 12 years, it'll probably need some brake work, and fuel hose replacement. Both (or all) seem to be some of the #1 issues these cars deal with over time. Rolling Eyes


Agreed. Rust free, unmolested is the way to go.

Once you get a feel for how the ACVW should appear and function 'stock',I advise looking as many VWs you can. I learned a lot about what's worth paying for and what's not. Look at all the VWs you can make it out to see in person, look up prices for the parts which are needed to bring it back to the road.

Most Importantly, if that chassis has significant rust....walk away. Mechanical work can be done but unless you are into a true long-term project, chassis rust is the death sentence.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello new member here. Reply with quote

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mark tucker wrote:
under valued??? yikes!!! some of the morons around hear want $$$$$$$$ for rusted out shells..... I personaly dont think anything is undervalued.....not after eating a woffle house this am.....holykniptionshitbatman!!! dma prices were 3 x the last time I was there and that hasent been that long.....of corse I was outa town and that may be thier std prices.....I hope I didnt get a std from the ffing Shocked Wink Rolling Eyes , I do agree if you find a deal get it.some people want to sell and some want to tease but not realy sell...unless a moron comes along.dont be a moron.

Well, when you're looking at a rusted out hulk of a 21 window for 30K, with production numbers identical to the '70 convertible I daily drive (which is worthless, I might add)...that's "overvalued". When you look at a square with production numbers right along those same lines and you can get a nice, clean driver for 10-15k, that's "undervalued".

Talk about undervalued, how about a Ghia? That's a beautiful, coachbuilt car with super-low production numbers and still less money than the same year bus. Stupid...


Man do I agree with you!
But value has to do with rarity and desirability which is hella subjective.
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