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djkeev
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kamzcab86
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 Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Conundrum.....new van vs old van |
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| The jump seat behind the driver is missing as well. |
Seller claims to still have it and that it's included in the sale, but the upholstery is shredded (no surprise there).
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Simpdog5
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Conundrum.....new van vs old van |
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OK, help needed. Just went and looked at a 1986 Westy for sale for $14,500. 183K miles. Link below:
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/d/1986-westfalia-weekender/6383332999.html
The Good:
Completely rust free
Engine started and ran very well
Van drove very well and very straight
All doors closed easily; sliding door closed perfectly
Original (looked like to me at least) paint and no body work/accidents
Van has been garaged and not registered since 2012
The Bad:
-No records of when/if engine/tranny rebuild/replacements done (I don't know much about engines but it sure looked clean with some really new looking parts)
-AC not connected
-no radio
-needs new upholstery on all seats
-needs new fabric for tent
One of the, if not THE least amount of rust I'ver seen on any of the vans I've looked at so far.
Considering. Any advice, tips, opinions very welcomed and appreciated!
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Tom Powell
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Conundrum.....new van vs old van |
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I like the poptop and the interior space without the galley. Price seems high. 183,000 miles for an OG engine is high, but if driven well and maintained will last x miles. I don't like to see a trailer hitch. Probably additional stress on the Vanagon drive train and brakes. The weekender poptops are a bit difficult to find, but still considerably less expensive than a poptop and galley.
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novws
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Conundrum.....new van vs old van |
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It looks like a solid van and a good one to build in. But the lack of records make me worry about the longevity of the mechanicals.
I also prefer the non camper versions for their addition space and lack of extra weight to have to pull around, but they also generally cost less so the price of this one seems a couple of grand too high given its condition and lack of records.
I wouldn’t rule it out by any means, but you should get a pre-purchase inspection and try to get the price down. And expect to have some patience with it and do at least some (if not more!) deferred maintenance right off the bat.
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llilibel03
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Conundrum.....new van vs old van |
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So enough about me; let's talk about the surf!
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Good day at Andrew Molera?
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Simpdog5
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Location: Marin County
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: Conundrum.....new van vs old van |
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| Simpdog5 wrote: |
So enough about me; let's talk about the surf!
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Good day at Andrew Molera? |
Fact!!! But better surf to be found down the road a bit....fortunate for me my 3 boys love to surf and don't pang to go snowboarding or skiing....keep 'em near the water and they're stoked!!
For this who are interested I think I've settled on looking for a AT Wolfsburg Edition 86-91.......keep an ear to the ground for me- Thanks all! |
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: Conundrum.....new van vs old van |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
When I visit the inlaws for Thanksgiving in a few weeks, the T4 will invariably be parked next to BIL #1's 15 passenger Ford van and BIL #2's Honda Odyssey. The T4 will be a little bigger than the latter and a little smaller than the former; a midsized van. This really ain't rocket surgery.
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As it turned out, this weekend I drove up for an early Thanksgiving in a rental '2017 Dodge Grand Caravan, due to my wife being rear-ended in her decidedly not minivan 2001 EV Weekender. Suffice to say, this vehicle is without a shred of doubt not even remotely similar to any Transporter ever made. Period.
To the OP, you want the best example of an '89 -'91 Weekender or Multivan you can find.
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