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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

Hey Samba,

I've been having a bit of an issue with my shifter alignment. No matter how far up, down, or in the middle I go, it just not want to stick in 3rd gear(also grinds).

it is weird because before I remove the shifter every gear was working fine.

hopefully someone can help! Very Happy

I am try to avoid buying a new transmission.


the things I have done:

-replace the shifter
-replace the hanger and wielded
-replace shiftrod bushing
-rear couplet
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

Check the shift linkage coupler under the rear seat.
Make sure the bolts for that are still tight and properly safety wired.

Do you have the early or later style of coupler??
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

Make sure you have this plate positioned properly under the shifter. It goes the way it's show in this pic from the gallery. The little ramp is on the right and faces up.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

Eric&Barb wrote:
Check the shift linkage coupler under the rear seat.
Make sure the bolts for that are still tight and properly safety wired.

Do you have the early or later style of coupler??


yes they are bolted tight. also it is an early style.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

rcooled wrote:
Make sure you have this plate positioned properly under the shifter. It goes the way it's show in this pic from the gallery. The little ramp is on the right and faces up.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



Yes it is up and on the on the passenger side.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

What shape is the forward link shift bushing?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

Eric&Barb wrote:
What shape is the forward link shift bushing?


it is new
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

apihor wrote:
the things I have done:

-replace the shifter
-replace the hanger and welded
-replace shiftrod bushing
-rear couplet


Positive that the new hanger was in the absolute correct place when it was welded?

Is the shift bushing still locked in place in that hanger?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

Cusser wrote:
apihor wrote:
the things I have done:

-replace the shifter
-replace the hanger and welded
-replace shiftrod bushing
-rear couplet


Positive that the new hanger was in the absolute correct place when it was welded?

Is the shift bushing still locked in place in that hanger?


Yes, I believe so.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

apihor wrote:
...it just not want to stick in 3rd gear(also grinds).

The exact same problem came up suddenly in a newly-rebuilt transaxle in my '63. Was done less than 1K miles ago by a recommended shop too. Linkage has a new bushing, is well-greased and properly adjusted. I can't engage 3rd gear, even with the engine off, despite the gear lever having a good solid connection to the input shaft on the trans.
I figure that something let go inside and the trans needs to come out to see what's going on. Adjusting the shift plate up & back can only do so much...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: 1962 shift issue Reply with quote

rcooled wrote:
apihor wrote:
...it just not want to stick in 3rd gear(also grinds).

The exact same problem came up suddenly in a newly-rebuilt transaxle in my '63. Was done less than 1K miles ago by a recommended shop too. Linkage has a new bushing, is well-greased and properly adjusted. I can't engage 3rd gear, even with the engine off, despite the gear lever having a good solid connection to the input shaft on the trans.
I figure that something let go inside and the trans needs to come out to see what's going on. Adjusting the shift plate up & back can only do so much...

thanks i will try that.
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