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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:07 am    Post subject: Front suspension Reply with quote

I’m thinking about redoing my whole front end to make it look better but what I was wondering if these shocks are worth the money or to go with something different ? Thanks in advance for the advice
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

With very little weight on the front of your buggy, there is no need for coil over shocks.
The use of cheap oil filled shock will allow your front suspension to work like it is suppose to.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

So would every thing from my old front end be able to go on the new front end
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

Ok it was kind of vague in your question on what exactly you want to do to your front suspension.

Are you planning on installing an aluminum axle beam as in the pictures?
If so you will want to install a very soft shock with when using one that has aluminum shock towers.
I seen them break off with stiffer than stock shocks. Like a KYB GasAjust white ones. A coil over shock would surely break them off over time as the towers will flex.

And yes your stock suspension components will fit on and in an aluminum beam.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

My main reason on going to aluminum beam is the look. Is it worth it go aluminum on a performance stand point?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

If you are only after looks, I would consider painting or powdercoating the current beam. It is stronger and adds needed weight to the front.

Saves money and looks the same.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

Dwc1984 wrote:
My main reason on going to aluminum beam is the look. Is it worth it go aluminum on a performance stand point?

No not on a buggy. You want the look then sand the steel beams and clear coat it. Those coil over shocks are garbage. If your keeping it torsion you would be far better off with something else. Let the torsion bars do the spring and the shock do the dampening.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

Is there a better setup for than the torsion bars that would look better?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

Front bumper and skid plate? Can't look bad if you can't see it. Paint to match frame? Wider, longer, with real coilovers?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

I think "Warrior Beams" are pretty cool looking and they can be set up for more wheel travel.

http://www.mooreparts.com/vw-king-pin-steel-front-axle-beam-stock-width-with-8-shock-towers/

They make 6" wider than stock beams and wider. If you go with a wider than stock beam, you should go wider on the rear to keep things equal.

Search "Warrior Beams" there's a lot of info on this site.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

If you are stuck on the aluminum beam, I've got one that I pulled out in favor of a 6" over beam and am just a couple hours from ya. I'll make you a deal much cheaper than the catalogs!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

I have seen multiple aluminum beams crack where the shock tower meets the beam. Not exactly a strong option. For a drag rail where weight is critical, maybe. For anything else, no...and absolutely not if it is to be driven off road.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

That's way too much for an aluminum beam unless they have went up.
Aluminum beams are great to save weight. But to take full advantage you'll need to go to aluminum spindle mounts. Once you pull all that weight off the front you won't need shocks at all.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: Front suspension Reply with quote

If you're gonna drive it on the dunes at Silverlake, leave it as it is, maybe paint the beam a different color or something. But if you're after the car show on the lawn deal, then an aluminum beam might get your pants wet. Not likely to excite much of anyone else tho. Performance-wise, I'd say it would rank right in there with faux-leopard skin seat covers for the most speed per dollar.
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