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Jtjimmie
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 Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:41 am Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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4965 Ghia Coupe - This part is between the rear wheel well and fender panel (on the inside, accessible from the engine compartment), one on each side.
It is sewn cheesecloth-like material stuffed with wool, or similar material.
What is its purpose?
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c21darrel
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sputnick60
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Jtjimmie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:24 am Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:24 am Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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OK, as I get ready to reassemble my Ghia, in the coming months, I'm trying to get clarity on a few things. In the below pic, I found this hole coming into the area on the right side where the tail light housing is located. Is this for the wiring to that tail light? Or is it for some kind of drain tube?
I am then confused about this hole. Could it be where the old air breather tubes ran, or is it where the battery and other cables route to the starter?
And this pic, on the left side. One hole is obviously for the wiring harness, not sure which. The other I would refer to my first question, and the small hole I assume is for the cable to pop the trunk. Can I get a confirmation please?
And finally a question re the wiring harness, when I run from the front, I see where it drops down from under the dash, near where the fresh air tube is located. Does it then run to the back under the door sill and then through the hole at the back, or do I somehow run it inside the area where the heat runs? and if so, suggestions on how to guide it? Run some kind of wire to hook it and pull through? Very confused on this point.
Thanks!
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crocteau
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:36 am Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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I found this hole coming into the area on the right side where the tail light housing is located. Is this for the wiring to that tail light? Or is it for some kind of drain tube?
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That's the pass through for your rear window drain tube. The second larger hole on the driver's side is for the harness.
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| And finally a question re the wiring harness, when I run from the front, I see where it drops down from under the dash, near where the fresh air tube is located. Does it then run to the back under the door sill and then through the hole at the back, or do I somehow run it inside the area where the heat runs... |
For the '71 the harness runs along the floor beside the channel, not through it. (see pics from Nicholas at https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=314838)
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kiwighia68
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:41 am Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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| rbsurfguy wrote: |
OK, as I get ready to reassemble my Ghia, in the coming months, I'm trying to get clarity on a few things. In the below pic, I found this hole coming into the area on the right side where the tail light housing is located. Is this for the wiring to that tail light? Or is it for some kind of drain tube?
I am then confused about this hole. Could it be where the old air breather tubes ran, or is it where the battery and other cables route to the starter?
And this pic, on the left side. One hole is obviously for the wiring harness, not sure which. The other I would refer to my first question, and the small hole I assume is for the cable to pop the trunk. Can I get a confirmation please?
And finally a question re the wiring harness, when I run from the front, I see where it drops down from under the dash, near where the fresh air tube is located. Does it then run to the back under the door sill and then through the hole at the back, or do I somehow run it inside the area where the heat runs? and if so, suggestions on how to guide it? Run some kind of wire to hook it and pull through? Very confused on this point.
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Having been where you are now, here are my suggestions:
1. The hole above the R side rear wheel arch is not for the taillights wiring. Those wires run from left to right inside the engine compartment (from the main wiring loom). I used that hole above the R rear wheel arch for a second wiring loom (5 wires) running from the engine in front of the dash so that I can fit additional gauges later. Maybe tach, oil pressure and engine temp.
2. The hole lower down in the R rear wheel arch area may be for the vent you mention - if you have the US system. We don't have that elsewhere in our Ghias, as far as I know.
3. The large hole in the L side (third photo) is for the main wiring loom. I threaded my old wiring loom from the back towards the front. It's easier that way to get it through that hole. It runs from there to the area in front of the firewall (R wheel arch area behind the R quarter panel) and then through a hole to UNDER the L door sillplate; then up behind the panel in front of the door. From there it goes into a hole into the area behind the dash.
The holes are small and the edges sharp. I would suggest that you make sure you have the right protective grommets in place at every hole. Coated with dishwashing liquid/water mix to facilitate the progress through the holes. It will also help if you have heatshrink over the front of the wiring loom to keep all the loose wires secure during their progress from the engine compartment to in front of the dash.
Good luck. You're at an exciting (and challenging) part of your restoration.
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crocteau
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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| rbsurfguy wrote: |
| Is this for the wiring to that tail light? |
I forget to mention that if you look up under the overhang just above the deck lid hinges you should see some openings and short squared-off metal tabs that are supposed to help hold the wiring in place as it crosses from the driver's side to the passenger side of the engine compartment where the wire to the tail light passes by the tar board should you choose to install it. The wire to the license plate light splits off just before that point and can be held out of the way by the rain tray. |
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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Thanks as always Crocteau and Kiwi. I knew someone would have an answer. I'll have to locate those drain holes on the inside, so I can attach the tubes properly. Crocteau, I will have to look for those little tabs to run the wires to the right side and LP light. I had a bunch of those tar board tabs removed so I can put sound mat and chrome sheet metal or some kind of cover. Will figure out if the wire tabs were removed. Thanks fellas!
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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Can someone remind me what connects to this relay? Emergency Flashers?
I seem to remember it was mounted on one of the little support posts near the wiring/fuse panel, and the were a couple grounding plugs hooked to that same post. Clarification please?????
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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Thank you Sir.
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alansvwTwinCab
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:54 am Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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I have some rubbers i didnt label and need help working out where they go.
this thick rubber around 4ft
and this rubber, its which is about 6ft long
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c21darrel
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alansvwTwinCab
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:43 pm Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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I thought that too but no its not the engine seal. Part #2 is close to the rubber that goes under the aluminium strip but no its not.
I'm thinking have I got some old rubbers from my Lbug mixed in with the ghia rubbers? |
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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Ok, digging through my boxes of parts to clean, I came across the below items. The first two look like some type of cable brace. The third one I thought was part of the license plate mounting bracket but the holes don't match, then I thought it must hold something under the dash. I defer to the experts!
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kiwighia68
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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| rbsurfguy wrote: |
Ok, digging through my boxes of parts to clean, I came across the below items. The first two look like some type of cable brace. The third one I thought was part of the license plate mounting bracket but the holes don't match, then I thought it must hold something under the dash. I defer to the experts!
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This piece goes under the dash, between the steering column assembly and the metal of the dash. There should be matching bolt holes.
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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Noted, thanks Kiwi!
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BulliBill
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: What's this Ghia part and Where does it go? |
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Is this a Ghia knob of some sort? Where does it go, and to what years, Yeah, I know this knob is missing a domed cap. part number on the base of the knob is 131 255 569. Thanks for any help!
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