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Bellows87 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:03 pm Post subject: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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Hi,
I currently own a 1966 beetle and it came with these wheels, i was told they were 1966 only wheels. The thing is, i am having alot of trouble getting hubcaps to fit. Is it possible for someone to confirm the year of my wheels?? They have been painted so no numbers etc on the back of the wheel.
Many thanks
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Sharp64 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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They look like 66/67 wheels to me. Which hubcaps are you using? They take different ones than the earlier years. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
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57BLITZ Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2012 Posts: 2385 Location: DEEK - U.S.A.
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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Welcome to TheSamba forum!
Without seeing the date code . . . they certainly look to be 1966 or 1967 VW type-I or type-III wheels.
Here's some hubcaps for ya . . . https://lanerussell.com/products/hubcaps-beetle?variant=1311195916 _________________ Jesucristo es mi Señor y Salvador! |
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bluebus86 Banned
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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there should be a date of manufacture stamp on the inside of the rim. at first glance they appear 66 or later. the 66 and later caps are not an easy fit, even stock, with aftermarket caps who knows?
I much prefer the early mounting method with springs on the rim, but thats not what is correct for a 66.
The flater hubcaps fit the 66 and later rims, the domed hub caps fit 65 and backrims.
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57BLITZ Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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bluebus86 wrote: |
The flater hubcaps fit the 66 and later rims, the domed hub caps fit 65 and backrims.
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!966-1967 hubcaps fit 1966-1967 wheels!
1965 hubcaps . . . or 1968 hubcaps . . . will NOT fit 1966-1967 wheels!
What you need to know . . . There are THREE different mounting styles for Beetle hubcaps! _________________ Jesucristo es mi Señor y Salvador! |
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Sharp64 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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I’ve read that the 65 domes caps will fit but you have to modify the lip to fit the notches in the rims. Is this not true? _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
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h~moto Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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If you have the correct hubcaps, here is how I install them.
There are three bumps on the rim that hold the hubcap in place. In your photo, they are in about the 10, 2 and 6 o'clock position on the rim that is on top of the stack. Place the hubcap in place between two of the bumps such as the 12 o'clock position and give the hubcap a smack with your fist at the 6 o'clock position. Should pop right into place. |
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bluebus86 Banned
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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h~moto wrote: |
If you have the correct hubcaps, here is how I install them.
There are three bumps on the rim that hold the hubcap in place. In your photo, they are in about the 10, 2 and 6 o'clock position on the rim that is on top of the stack. Place the hubcap in place between two of the bumps such as the 12 o'clock position and give the hubcap a smack with your fist at the 6 o'clock position. Should pop right into place. |
Thats where some aftermarket caps fail, they are so thin and/or poor fit that you end up denting them putting them on.
Some retailers sell the 66 67 as same part as the post 67 part. what are the difference(s)? The general appearence is very simular between these early and late flat style caps. Will the later cap fit 66 67 rims, and 66 67 caps fit later rims, or not?
I got a 66, orignal caps and rims, not easy to install, I also have a 61, and 65 , and 58 and them caps that use the springs on the rim snap in really nice.
Any how, now that I own a 66, I am most curious... what are the cap and rim differences compared to the later 68 and up ones?
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mukluk Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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1965 and earlier hubcaps attach to the wheel via spring clips, the edge goes inside the lip of the wheel.
1966-1967 hubcaps snap into the wheel lip directly, no spring clips and the edge is inside the lip of the wheel.
1968 and later hubcaps snap over the wheel lip, the edge is outside of the lip of the wheel.
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hitest Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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Sharp64 wrote: |
I’ve read that the 65 domes caps will fit but you have to modify the lip to fit the notches in the rims. Is this not true? |
Maybe- with heat, heavy pliers and no regard for the sanctity of a proper cap. _________________
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panicman Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:29 am Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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Sharp64 wrote: |
I’ve read that the 65 domes caps will fit but you have to modify the lip to fit the notches in the rims. Is this not true? |
“Will fit” like an oval window in a Super Beetle. _________________ Plate of shrimp |
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:32 am Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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Before I took the body off my car, I'm pretty sure I was running later hubcaps on my '67. The '67 hubcaps dent even if they are OG, you have to know where to hit them when you install them. _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
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He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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EA812 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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67ctbug wrote: |
Before I took the body off my car, I'm pretty sure I was running later hubcaps on my '67. The '67 hubcaps dent even if they are OG, you have to know where to hit them when you install them. |
You don't have to hit them. Just set it up so 2 of the tabs are holding and you can just squeeze it on by putting your hands into the wheel slots. _________________ Project 66 Daily Driver http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=538786&highlight=
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:01 am Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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EA812 wrote: |
67ctbug wrote: |
Before I took the body off my car, I'm pretty sure I was running later hubcaps on my '67. The '67 hubcaps dent even if they are OG, you have to know where to hit them when you install them. |
You don't have to hit them. Just set it up so 2 of the tabs are holding and you can just squeeze it on by putting your hands into the wheel slots. |
Really? Well then Chris Vallone needs an update. He advised hitting them along the edges from what I remember... _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:20 am Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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67ctbug wrote: |
EA812 wrote: |
67ctbug wrote: |
Before I took the body off my car, I'm pretty sure I was running later hubcaps on my '67. The '67 hubcaps dent even if they are OG, you have to know where to hit them when you install them. |
You don't have to hit them. Just set it up so 2 of the tabs are holding and you can just squeeze it on by putting your hands into the wheel slots. |
Really? Well then Chris Vallone needs an update. He advised hitting them along the edges from what I remember... |
Can't some guy on YouTube be wrong? |
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:44 am Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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iowegian wrote: |
67ctbug wrote: |
EA812 wrote: |
67ctbug wrote: |
Before I took the body off my car, I'm pretty sure I was running later hubcaps on my '67. The '67 hubcaps dent even if they are OG, you have to know where to hit them when you install them. |
You don't have to hit them. Just set it up so 2 of the tabs are holding and you can just squeeze it on by putting your hands into the wheel slots. |
Really? Well then Chris Vallone needs an update. He advised hitting them along the edges from what I remember... |
Can't some guy on YouTube be wrong? |
Yes...unless it's me ... but seriously I've seen people regard him as the best restorer so I assume if he wants people to keep thinking that, he should at least make his videos accurate. That's just my opinion though, personally, I think his work is iffy to say the least. I think people here know more than him. _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:27 am Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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EA812 wrote: |
67ctbug wrote: |
Before I took the body off my car, I'm pretty sure I was running later hubcaps on my '67. The '67 hubcaps dent even if they are OG, you have to know where to hit them when you install them. |
You don't have to hit them. Just set it up so 2 of the tabs are holding and you can just squeeze it on by putting your hands into the wheel slots. |
You either have super strong hands or your wheel tabs are super worn out. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Sharp64 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:34 am Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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panicman wrote: |
Sharp64 wrote: |
I’ve read that the 65 domes caps will fit but you have to modify the lip to fit the notches in the rims. Is this not true? |
“Will fit” like an oval window in a Super Beetle. |
Like I said I thought I read that it took a minor tweak for them to fit. I’ve never tried it as I have early wheels. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
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EA812 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 Beetle Wheels Hubcap Help?! |
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EverettB wrote: |
EA812 wrote: |
67ctbug wrote: |
Before I took the body off my car, I'm pretty sure I was running later hubcaps on my '67. The '67 hubcaps dent even if they are OG, you have to know where to hit them when you install them. |
You don't have to hit them. Just set it up so 2 of the tabs are holding and you can just squeeze it on by putting your hands into the wheel slots. |
You either have super strong hands or your wheel tabs are super worn out. |
Probably, it definitely isn't a new wheel 😂 Maybe extreme cold helped. _________________ Project 66 Daily Driver http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=538786&highlight=
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