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akokarski Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2004 Posts: 1896
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:44 pm Post subject: PDSIT Rebuild |
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got a set of pdsit, but it appears to be 6v. Is it possible to get idle cut off and choke heater element for 12v, or do I just run a 12/6v resister/voltage drop dealies?
i think this may work for idle cut off
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-BUG-BUS-GHIA-AIR-BYPASS...mp;vxp=mtr
and for choke element, can I get one from the bus version?
one of the carbs is missing volume control screw. Can I fit adjustment screw from any other solex?
Thanks,
Anton |
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EasternNotch Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2006 Posts: 633 Location: Boston Metro West
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:54 am Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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Hello-
yes you can just swap electric fuel cut offs and chokes, no need to get fancy with voltage drop.
That cut-off solenoid looks like it would fit the PDSIT 32's but what size is the idle jet in it? You need ones that are 50 or 55 , they are pretty easy to find
12v choke elements can be hard to find and I do think the pdsit 32-34 ones fit (if that what u mean by bus ones)
try to use the proper air/fuel adjustment screws. they are not rare and incorrect ones could cause damage to the carb bases. _________________ 1964 Notchback
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ataraxia Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 4504 Location: Illinois
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akokarski Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2004 Posts: 1896
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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so the set of carbs that i have is from 6v, which means idle cutoff soleniod as ataraxia posted and chokes would have to be replaced.
Jets are not missing. so I don't need any just yet.
Now I am looking a little closer and it appears that I might be missing another bit besides adjustment screw. I think it's accelerator or some brass squirter tube that points down the venturi. For one carb two of them and another just one.
I might be better of picking up another set and to cobble up one working pair.
I'll take some pictures to show what I am talking about.
Thanks!
Anton |
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akokarski Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2004 Posts: 1896
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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ok here are some the pictures of that little tube:
this one has a stamped 2 on the top part of the body:
and here is one with 3.
looking closer it appears as #3 does not even have the hole drilled.
Is this supposed to be this way or do I have two miss matched carbs on my hands?
Thanks!
Anton |
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ataraxia Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 4504 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:47 am Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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My bet is that you have mismatched carbs.
Easy way to check: Look at the spine of the fuel bowl - on the outside there's a number stamped in the body.
This chart will tell you how to 'pair' the carburetors:
This thread will explain the differences between the carburetors in more detail:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=540152&start=0 |
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EasternNotch Samba Member
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akokarski Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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ugh, thanks for the links and scans. Looks like this is going back on the back burner, or better yet back into classifieds. Hopefully a few folks have a use for one of each
now I know what to look for.
Thanks!
Anton |
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Slow 1200 Samba Member
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vwfanatic67 Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2003 Posts: 427 Location: Warner Robins, GA
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:00 am Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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send me a pm of what you need I have a ton of those carbs. _________________ "white trash but worth every cent"
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akokarski Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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Ok Gents,
going reopen this can of worms apparently aircooled.net sells new pdsit kits for t1 and t4. Neither will probably fit on t3 as is due to linkage and manifolds.
I wondering if I can just take the T4 kit and use it with stock manifolds, air cleaner and linkage. (maybe I can use t4 linkage hence the reason looking at t4 rather than t1 kit). Does anybody know if they will work on t3? I want to be as close to stock as possible so I can use my aircleaner and electric chokes.
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Dual-34mm-PDSIT-Solex-Carb-Kit-Type-4-p/3286.htm
they come with pod filters, so I cannot tell if they have a rod in the top like the stock aircleaners do. Maybe I should ask this in the bus forum?
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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My Autopress manual has Walker # 15552A as being the proper rebuild kit for Type 3 Solex carburetors, penciled inside the front cover.
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=walker+%2315...mp=yhs-002 _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
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ataraxia Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 4504 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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What year is your car?
I have a super nice set of stock carbs with all of the linkage and parts. |
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GjMan Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2004 Posts: 822 Location: Grand Junction, CO
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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I believe those ACN kits are from Brazil. You should be able to adapt your T3 linkage to make them work as long as long as you use stock DP T3 manifolds. Stock T3 air cleaner will not fit, however.
I'm running a set and am quite happy with them.
They should also work with stock SP manifolds. |
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akokarski Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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this is a 70 dual port. I do have all the bits but the actual carbs are mismatched and 6v. I was thinking of taking brand new ones from a kit and using them.
Why won't stock air cleaner will not work? do these have bigger tops and/or missing the stud for air cleaner wing nut?
If that is the case I might as well dust off a set of ICTs, but I don't like the fact that I would be losing chokes and pulling air from engine compartment. |
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ataraxia Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:39 am Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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akokarski wrote: |
this is a 70 dual port. I do have all the bits but the actual carbs are mismatched and 6v. I was thinking of taking brand new ones from a kit and using them.
Why won't stock air cleaner will not work? do these have bigger tops and/or missing the stud for air cleaner wing nut?
If that is the case I might as well dust off a set of ICTs, but I don't like the fact that I would be losing chokes and pulling air from engine compartment. |
The ACN carbs are 34 PDSIT, the stock T3 carbs are 32 PDSIT.
There is another version - the 32-34 PDSIT used on the T2 bus. They are often confused with the 32 PDSIT. Perhaps the 32-34 PDSIT is what the ACN carbs are based on...
The carbs I have are jetted for a 1500 S - if you change the jets, you'd be good to go. I also have NOS 12v chokes and idle cut offs.
Send me a PM or email if you're interested - I can send pics. |
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sqbk1971 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2016 Posts: 134 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:23 am Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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Since this subject came up and I just did this thought I would ask a questions as it might help in your build.
I just bought and rebuilt a set of 32 PDSIT and I in my kit it came with 2 throttle gaskets.
I decided to use this one. The holes aligned better and it had a full "smiley" cut in it for the the port pictured. The only thing is that if you notice right above the "smiley" cut there is an extra hole that causes the gasket to have a little tab outside the body.
This is the gasket that matches what a past PO had used, but no matter how I move it the holes just don't align and no "smiley cut" but no tab either.
Which is more right? |
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GjMan Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:35 am Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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Why won't stock air cleaner work on the Brazilian Solexes? The stockers have a stud sticking out of the air horn which holds the AC on. The Brazilians don't; the air cleaner clamps on like on a typical Type 1.
I modified the stock air cleaner to work by welding on sleeves to fit over the air horns and securing the whole thing with hose clamps.
I did this some years ago, but today I would hesitate to cut up a good T3 AC. |
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ataraxia Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:50 am Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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Anything will work with modification... |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: PDSIT Rebuild |
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sqbk1971 wrote: |
Since this subject came up and I just did this thought I would ask a questions as it might help in your build.
I just bought and rebuilt a set of 32 PDSIT and I in my kit it came with 2 throttle gaskets.
I decided to use this one. The holes aligned better and it had a full "smiley" cut in it for the the port pictured. The only thing is that if you notice right above the "smiley" cut there is an extra hole that causes the gasket to have a little tab outside the body.
This is the gasket that matches what a past PO had used, but no matter how I move it the holes just don't align and no "smiley cut" but no tab either.
Which is more right? |
I'd go with the first (top pic) one. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
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