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Awdrocks Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:23 am Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Does anybody know if the auto half shafts will swap out to the 5spd tranny? Thank you |
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Joshwa Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2015 Posts: 810 Location: North Seattle WA
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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I think there is a difference in the throttle body between auto & manual equipped engines. Using the throttle body from an automatic transmission equipped engine when the vehicle is converted to manual transmission will cause a high idle. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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Awdrocks Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Joshwa wrote: |
For the ECU, I believe you at least need a auto or manual ECU from a 93 for the 5 cylinder engine control. As far as the axles go, again between 93 components, the passenger side for the auto is the same as either side for the manual. You have to look at Length measurements to figure that out with the vr6 auto axles working with the 93 manual. |
Both vans are 93'. So the driver side are different? |
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Awdrocks Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
I think there is a difference in the throttle body between auto & manual equipped engines. Using the throttle body from an automatic transmission equipped engine when the vehicle is converted to manual transmission will cause a high idle. |
Original shouldn't be adjusted? |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:57 am Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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iirc the 93 auto and 93 5spd throttle bodies
the 93 auto has an extra plug in to the position sensor to tell the TCU when you are at WOT and closed throttle.
the ECU side of the plug is independent and the same on both.
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Awdrocks Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:37 am Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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danfromsyr wrote: |
iirc the 93 auto and 93 5spd throttle bodies
the 93 auto has an extra plug in to the position sensor to tell the TCU when you are at WOT and closed throttle.
the ECU side of the plug is independent and the same on both.
there isn't any throttle plate motor mechanism |
Thank you. |
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Awdrocks Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2016 Posts: 41 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:42 am Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Sorry to ask about the axle again just a bit confused.. So the driver axle does need to swapped from the 5spd? |
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Joshwa Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2015 Posts: 810 Location: North Seattle WA
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Awdrocks Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:25 am Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Joshwa wrote: |
Looking at retailers, they sell a specific part for right and left side. Looking at EuropartsSD, they list the passenger side and manual axles together.
http://europarts-sd.com/mfg-subcat-item.asp?cID=45&scID=332
In reality, and having the auto axles, you could compare their lengths to see if there is a difference there. Or if there is some sort of difference in the inner cv bolt pattern. |
Thank you. Seems the starter is also different. |
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vorsicht Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:31 am Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Awdrocks wrote: |
Does anybody know if the auto half shafts will swap out to the 5spd tranny? Thank you |
question for you!
do you still have the old tranny?
thanks in advance |
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Awdrocks Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2016 Posts: 41 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:11 am Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Auto? No the auto wasn't mine. I have a auto 93' tranny. It needs some work. |
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Awdrocks Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2016 Posts: 41 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Can anyone shed any light in this? A friend is rebuilding his Eurovan 24v and the pistons are coming way out. Hits the head by about a 1/4". Head was serviced and crank 10over.
Any ideas??
Thank you!![/img] |
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Awdrocks Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Here's a pic.
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Awdrocks Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Figured it out, and none of us are blonde. |
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Awdrocks Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2016 Posts: 41 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:17 am Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Hello everyone.
Yesterday I swapped out a shifter cable (all the way up to the shifter lever) to a 93 automatic.
The van won't start now. I read about it for several hours last night that it needs to be adjusted properly, like manually putting it into neutral while detaching the cable from the transmission etc. I read someone say that the car needs to be in its natural level position (for a different vehicle).
The dash gear position indicator is not showing any gears being selected.I can also not hear the switch activating in the lever anymore when applying the brake. Also now the electrical seems weird, hazards don't work (hazard button turns solid red when pressing), and if the keys are out and I press on the brake the ebrake light turns on as do a couple of lights on the dash.
I can not seem to find the correct protocol procedure on this van to fix.
Can someone please shed some light on how to fix this or perhaps a thread that goes over it?
Thank you! All the best |
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Awdrocks Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2016 Posts: 41 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 Eurovan 5-cylinder/5spd SWAP into a 2002 Eurovan VR6/Auto |
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Found a couple culprits. Hopefully this can help someone in the future.
There was a broken ground that went to the battery to the chassi under the battery trey. That took care of the display not showing the gears selected.
The starting issue continued and traced it down to a bad ignition switch. Swapted the switch and now the engine starts right up, hazards work as they should and also fixed the dash lights coming on when pressing on the brakes.
Cheers |
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