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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

Aren’t the cups and seals the same on ‘64-‘65 cylinders? I know the shape and layout of the cylinder itself varies from year to year, but I was under the impression that the parts that need replacing are pretty universal... like, even the 7/8” stuff from the FLAPS would work?

Anyway, I will drive it around again and check very carefully for leaks- didn’t see any on a short drive yesterday. Maybe it won’t be leaking and it was just the mess from moving the hoses and bleeders that was showing up? Not likely🙄🙄

I will pull the drums and see where it is leaking and go from there.

Can I get instructions/advice on how to use brake paste and/or assembly lube?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

After sitting for a couple of days, the passenger side front brakes are leaking just sitting there parked. The drivers side is dry but I haven't tested it under pressure again.

Feeling sort of dumb, but is it possible that I just need to reassemble the wheel cylinders with BRAKE PASTE (like ATE or equivalent)? Maybe new fresh seals and cups? Did anyone wanna confirm that any 22mm or 7/8" cups/seals should work?

I did test all this stuff dry Rolling Eyes The wheel cylinders expand and contract nicely... just have some leaks.

Not sure all FOUR fronts are leaking, but I will find out Exclamation
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

OK- Took a longer test drive all around the neighborhood - slight leaks.

Back home - put the front end up on jack stands, pulled the drums - NO Leaky Wheel Cylinders! No leaky pipes! No leaking soft hoses! Turns out my mechanix had used paste when they re-did my work last week- so that's good! Grateful I don't have to pull the wheel cylinders and rebuild them.

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HOWEVER --- Both sides had leaking Bleeders! Evil or Very Mad Boo

So I replaced the passenger side bleeder with an extra new one that I had ...

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Bleed the system again...went for another drive.

Pedal is STILL not great...

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Will check for leaks again later... any advice on troublesome bleeder valves/screws?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

I bought a power bleeder for my brakes when I had drums - all it took was 10psi to get them clear and functional. I've tried to gravity bleed them and wasn't able to get a good pedal...closest I got was using one way bleeders.

Pretty sure this is the one I bought four years ago - still use it and it takes ~30 minutes to bleed the brakes at all four corners.

https://www.amazon.com/Motive-Products-European-Bleeder-Adapter/dp/B0002KM5L0

I don't use the rubber gasket in the adapter cap - it just leaked everywhere.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

Cool !

What about those "Speed-Bleeders" ? One man AND a built-in little check valve!

http://store-speedbleeder-com.3dcartstores.com/

AND/OR

I think the problem could be this:

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New in the middle - old ones on the outside- These suckers seal wear the tapered seat is up against the slave/cylinder bore, right? The profile is not quite right on the new and the threads are longer....

I'm wondering now if it wasn't a fluke that the left-side bleeder took a 11mm wrench to close and the right-side bleeder took a 10mm. Gotta hunt through the parts again...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

Got it!
NO Leaks Cool finally...

It was indeed the wrong bleeder valves - the tapered seal was not quite right- Gary hooked me up and it's all good now.

Now, I will lower it in the front and rear - it rides nice but sits a little high and it needs an alignment...

Also - I want to rebuild my old core wheels cylinders to have for the future Exclamation

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I got a honing tool.

Questions! Question

What can I do to clean off all the rust and restore these? Vinegar? Or?

Can the '64-'65 rebuild kits (which are also 22mm) be used?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

muriatic acid will strip it clean, baking soda to neutralize it
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

W1K1 wrote:
muriatic acid will strip it clean, baking soda to neutralize it


That will work. Vinegar will also work, although more slowly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

dropped the front

aligned and doubled checked all the front end work (thanks John and crew)



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Check out my wavey seasick body work Rolling Eyes
Might need to straighten that bumper out next time it's off
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

Dave it's come a long way check out the picks I took at the 2012 invasion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

Hey cool!
Good shots at hotel...
The truck was barely driveable back then Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

Your front bumper brackets need to be flipped side to side. It causes that tilt down and not level.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:06 am    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

notchboy wrote:
Your front bumper brackets need to be flipped side to side. It causes that tilt down and not level.


Not the issue - tried that a long time ago - it was so much worse that it wouldn't mount without hitting the fender...

The bumper itself is just messed up. The rear was the same at one point and last time it was off, I figured out how to fix it... I may buy a nice one from Joel OR

I also have a secret plan for the front but I'm not sure when/if I will execute Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

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Your front bumper brackets need to be flipped side to side. It causes that tilt down and not level.


Not the issue - tried that a long time ago - it was so much worse that it wouldn't mount without hitting the fender...

The bumper itself is just messed up. The rear was the same at one point and last time it was off, I figured out how to fix it... I may buy a nice one from Joel OR

I also have a secret plan for the front but I'm not sure when/if I will execute Twisted Evil



Well it all still looks pretty dang good. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

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dc wrote:
notchboy wrote:
Your front bumper brackets need to be flipped side to side. It causes that tilt down and not level.


Not the issue - tried that a long time ago - it was so much worse that it wouldn't mount without hitting the fender...

The bumper itself is just messed up. The rear was the same at one point and last time it was off, I figured out how to fix it... I may buy a nice one from Joel OR

I also have a secret plan for the front but I'm not sure when/if I will execute Twisted Evil



Well it all still looks pretty dang good. Cool



Thanks man Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

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Dave it's come a long way check out the picks I took at the 2012 invasion.
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Yes, yes it has!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

I was working on a house in Bremerton and this car passed by. I ran down the driveway like a kid chasing an ice cream truck but it was gone. Looked great, glad I found the build for such a unique, local car.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

Laughing That's funny! If only all my wiper parts were here and installed, I could drive around even more... all it does is rain ALL the time
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Type 3 Truck - the "other" vw Reply with quote

vwfye wrote:
69 Notchback wrote:
Dave it's come a long way check out the picks I took at the 2012 invasion.
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Yes, yes it has!


Definitely came along way since then. And there's the proof I saw it in person, as Sue and myself are in the background of the 1st pic. Cool
Damn nice job Dave. Applause
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