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Jung Restoration Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2004 Posts: 592 Location: Maine
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:47 am Post subject: Chrome Polishing -belt line deluxe trim- |
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I have been polishing my og '67 deluxe belt-line trim for quite a while now, I'm making progress but it's taking a long time. I'm using Mothers Mag and Aluminum Polish...wiping some on till it turns black, and then using a clean terry cloth to whipe it off.
Is there an easier way to do this? Like a buffing wheel, or a hand tool? Let me know what you use....I do have a wire/sharpening wheel in my shop, should I go buy a buffing wheel for it?
The pieces are definately shining up, but it's taking a lot of time. I do like the satisfaction of cleaning them, but can it be done quicker?
Also, any other polish work better? _________________ Wanted : January '57 Palm Green Sand Green Bus Parts - Middle and Rear Seat Frames - flat back. I have original seat covers but would consider covered frames.
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Jung Restoration - Jung is my last name and restoration is what I do for work. I restore antique windows and doors here in the Northeast. Check out my site www.antiquewindowrestoration.com |
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a-train Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2003 Posts: 702 Location: Issaquah via Parkland, WA
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: |
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I tried it your way first as well, but it was too much work and I wasn't getting the desired results. I took off the trim and used a buffing wheel with a buffing compound. Much much better. Be careful not to bend your trim though, especially the long passenger side piece. You can screw it down to a 2x4 to keep it straight.
Good luck, either way it takes some work, but much easier with a wheel. _________________ I like VWs |
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Andrew Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2000 Posts: 5865 Location: Who in the what now?
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:00 am Post subject: |
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As far as other polishes, I'd definitely recommend you trying one called Wenol. I've done maybe 1/3 of the trim on my bus, and it's awesome. I haven't gotten around to doing the rest yet (read: been too lazy). _________________ -Andrew |
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3097 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Mothers works just fine.
I took mine off and rubbed it down with 000 steel wool to get the worst of the oxidation off. then have at it with the Mothers, it comes up to a mirror finish.
It sounds like you may be wiping off the polish too soon, Once the polish is on, you can rub it until it is all absorbed in the cloth, then wipe it down with a clean cloth. _________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge
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aah57 Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2003 Posts: 433 Location: Roswell, Ga
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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I've been using steel wool and then never dull by eagle one and is working great! _________________ Looking for white cabinets for a '61 camper
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Jung Restoration Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2004 Posts: 592 Location: Maine
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to try the 000 steel wool, and then hitting it up with the Mother's. The 000 steel wool won't sctatch up the crome?
It's funny, the only piece that I haven't started to polish yet is the long drivers side piece. All the sections are removed, and I've had success using one inch screws to secure them to a 2 X 6 with a thinner piece of wood screwed to that.
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It sounds like you may be wiping off the polish too soon, Once the polish is on, you can rub it until it is all absorbed in the cloth, then wipe it down with a clean cloth. |
Yeah, that may be the case. I did do that a few times, the cloth gets kind of a gold color to it, and I wasn't sure if I was doing it right. But now I know! _________________ Wanted : January '57 Palm Green Sand Green Bus Parts - Middle and Rear Seat Frames - flat back. I have original seat covers but would consider covered frames.
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Karl Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2001 Posts: 6170 Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Unless someone chrome plated it, it is aluminum trim..... |
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Jung Restoration Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2004 Posts: 592 Location: Maine
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: #000 Steel Wool |
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Well, I just took some #000 steel wool to it, and rubbed on some Mother's polish. Absolutely incredible! The steel wool takes off the decades of oxidation, then the Mothers shines it up. Sweet!! I was spending way too much time trying to polish it instead of removing the heavy oxidation first and then using the Mother's polish.
Thank you Riff Raff for the #000 steel wool tip, it's going to save me so much time. What do I owe thee?
I think I'm going to go back and steel wool/polish all of my other pieces too! _________________ Wanted : January '57 Palm Green Sand Green Bus Parts - Middle and Rear Seat Frames - flat back. I have original seat covers but would consider covered frames.
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Jung Restoration - Jung is my last name and restoration is what I do for work. I restore antique windows and doors here in the Northeast. Check out my site www.antiquewindowrestoration.com |
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3097 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: #000 Steel Wool |
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Jung Restoration wrote: |
Thank you Riff Raff for the #000 steel wool tip, it's going to save me so much time. What do I owe thee?
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Glad to help !
Your payment will be helping out a fellow bus guy with a problem he has that you have the answer to.
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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When i did the windows in my westy I wet sanded them with 600 then 1500, then 000 steel wool with polish and then again with a rag. It worked great.
I used the sandpaper because it took all the oxidation and most , if not all, of the pits out as well. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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LHG Samba Moderator
Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 1855 Location: LostHillsGuy, CA
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9791 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Someone else (campingbox?) mentioned screwing the trim down to a wooden block to hold it for polishing, and that was a great suggestion.
I recently did the deluxe trim spears for the rockers on my bus, and I just screwed them to a workbench and went nuts with the polishing wheels. Saved me a bunch of time. _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
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Dave24 Samba Hack Purist
Joined: April 14, 2004 Posts: 7442 Location: Hablamos Ingles, So. Cal.
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Said it before, and I'll say it again, SIMICHROME. German, works, worth EVERY PENNY!!!!! Been using it for 30 years. |
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Jerry J Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2004 Posts: 1257 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Dave24 wrote: |
Said it before, and I'll say it again, SIMICHROME. German, works, worth EVERY PENNY!!!!! Been using it for 30 years. |
My preference is Simichrome, too. It's gotten hard to find around here lately.
I'm working over the inside panel trim for my bus and I tried a buffing wheel on my Dremel. It didn't do much good. So I tried the 000 steel wool and that doesn't seem to cut it either. _________________ Jerry
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Spitty1974 Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2011 Posts: 647 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Chrome Polishing -belt line deluxe trim- |
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Anyone have suggestions for what grit sandpaper to start with for trim that is heavily oxidized? I read several of the threads on polishing deluxe trim, but couldn't find much on sand paper grit, most folks talk about steel wool.
I know Crofty mentioned he used 600 grit and then jumped to 1500 grit before polish on this thread.
I have some beltline trim that is really oxidized, I tried steel wool and it did not get everything out. There are still some oxidation and shallow pit marks here and there. And, the little section I used steel wool on took forever, so I need something that will work better....I'm thinking sandpaper.
I can't seem to find a good answer of where to start in terms of a grit number.
I wasn't sure if I should start with something high like 3000, or if that is going to be too soft and not clear off the marks? Or, should I start with 600 and work up from there? I wasn't sure if that coarse of a grit would cause undue scratches and mess the trim up more.
Basically, what is a good grit to start with, and where to go from there before polish?
Any info you can pass my way is greatly appreciated. |
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3931 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Chrome Polishing -belt line deluxe trim- |
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I respect Crofty's opinion.
Try what he said.
If you're afraid of insurmountable damage... try it on a small scale to see how it goes. _________________ aka: Evan
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Skim Rants Master
Joined: April 15, 2001 Posts: 17082 Location: GFK 31 Year Vet
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Chrome Polishing -belt line deluxe trim- |
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I used 0000 fine steel wool to remove the old built up oxidization then Mothers mag polish on a cotton buffing wheel attached to an electric drill. Then clean off the residue with a clean micro fiber cloth. I preferred doing mine on the bus because it never seems to stay looking straight once you pull it off the bus. Looks wavy after pulling it off and screwing it back on.
I used 2" wide painters masking tape to protect the paint.
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Stocknazi Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5150
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:42 am Post subject: Re: Chrome Polishing -belt line deluxe trim- |
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Spitty1974 wrote: |
Anyone have suggestions for what grit sandpaper to start with for trim that is heavily oxidized? I read several of the threads on polishing deluxe trim, but couldn't find much on sand paper grit, most folks talk about steel wool. |
You can start with a lower number paper, providing you work your way back up to remove the scratches.
I cleaned up some ambulance step trim that was in rough shape, with tons of scratches/gouges and wet sanded with 180 grit and finished with 600 grit; followed up with 0000 steel wool, then finished some aluminum polish.
Just using 0000 steel wool and polish works great providing whatever your working with is not heavily oxidized.
Also if you have pieces that need to be repaired and you do not have the ability to weld aluminum, there is an aluminum low-temp solder you can use that works awesome. Harbor Freight carries it, but it's cheaper on Ebay. _________________ WANTED:
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RWK Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2009 Posts: 1349 Location: S.W. MI
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Chrome Polishing -belt line deluxe trim- |
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scotch brite pads work well on aluminum wont load up like sand paper, easy to handle also, think there are 3 or so grits I wuse the maroon colored ones, grey are extra fine _________________ 73 Type 181
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Stocknazi Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5150
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Chrome Polishing -belt line deluxe trim- |
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RWK wrote: |
scotch brite pads work well on aluminum wont load up like sand pape |
Rubbing bar soap on your paper helps prevent loading up. _________________ WANTED:
58 Westfalia cabinet knobs (3 needed), roof rack, and (7) privy tent poles (silver painted).
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