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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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quartermilecamel wrote: |
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silver solder new posts on. |
Is it really possable to silver solder aluminum? Got a video of that so us solderally inept people can try that? |
mine was made of chrome plated steel not aluminum. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51145 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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LOL, nice!
Most of mine are aluminum too, I did replace a stud on one by drilling it and installing a long countersunk 3/32" aircraft rivet (glued in with end sticking out the back), after some sanding and polishing you really had to look hard for the rivet head on the outer face. You better be confident with your countersink for this job, I used a microstop and a rivet shaver after (aircraft tools). _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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quartermilecamel Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2008 Posts: 3929 Location: ohio
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
quartermilecamel wrote: |
solderally inept |
LOL, nice!
Most of mine are aluminum too, I did replace a stud on one by drilling it and installing a long countersunk 3/32" aircraft rivet (glued in with end sticking out the back), after some sanding and polishing you really had to look hard for the rivet head on the outer face. You better be confident with your countersink for this job, I used a microstop and a rivet shaver after (aircraft tools). |
Well, yeah it is quite funny I only say that because Im dam good at soldering......regular wires, copper. Tried soldering some broken fins back on my heads because someone suggested to go get the mig aluminum wire lowes sells and just run that through your mig welder. Worked about as well as duct taping them back on. Soldering aluminum is a whole different ball game. even tried to use the mapp torch while practicing on some lowes aluminum. Ended up just making a mess out of it. Just might try the alumalloy stuff harbor freight sells but not sure if a regular mapp gass plumbing torch would work, as I dont have the oxy/ acetalyne setup. _________________ Waiting for santa to drop off funky green. I can wish can't I???? |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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quartermilecamel wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
quartermilecamel wrote: |
solderally inept |
LOL, nice!
Most of mine are aluminum too, I did replace a stud on one by drilling it and installing a long countersunk 3/32" aircraft rivet (glued in with end sticking out the back), after some sanding and polishing you really had to look hard for the rivet head on the outer face. You better be confident with your countersink for this job, I used a microstop and a rivet shaver after (aircraft tools). |
Well, yeah it is quite funny I only say that because Im dam good at soldering......regular wires, copper. Tried soldering some broken fins back on my heads because someone suggested to go get the mig aluminum wire lowes sells and just run that through your mig welder. Worked about as well as duct taping them back on. Soldering aluminum is a whole different ball game. even tried to use the mapp torch while practicing on some lowes aluminum. Ended up just making a mess out of it. Just might try the alumalloy stuff harbor freight sells but not sure if a regular mapp gass plumbing torch would work, as I dont have the oxy/ acetalyne setup. |
As I indicated, my 1971 deluxe sunroof had a steel and chrome emblem. I am sure I could have found a way to put pins onto it if need be and I could not find one with pins - probably drill them on a drill press with an end mill and then fit new pins. I had a good friend who was a machinist who did that small stuff for me all the time, however here is a solder that indicates it will do what you are asking about.
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Aluminum or Copper Al 802 Flux Cored Aluminum High strength,low temperature solder for joining aluminum to aluminum and aluminum to copper. Easy to use, contains a non-corrosive flux.
http://www.silfos.com/htmdocs/product_support/alloy_selection_guide.html _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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SBL74 Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2013 Posts: 125 Location: Treasure Island, FL
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:21 am Post subject: Re: attaching "Volkswagen" script to rear hatch |
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Sorry to ask y'all to be my search engine, but I have a 73 Bay Window Bus where the PO/restorer covered over the holes for the emblems both front and back.
I would prefer not to re-drill them at this point. I recall that some vendor or person offers SS or aluminum scripts for the back that do not have the studs and already have the emblem tape on them. I cannot find this entity now.
Does anyone know?
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5780 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: attaching "Volkswagen" script to rear hatch |
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Just attach the emblems with clear RTV. It holds on forever, does not require holes, and is hardly noticeable. _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
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alman72 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2014 Posts: 2573 Location: MICHIGAN
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: attaching "Volkswagen" script to rear hatch |
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I am on year 5 of clear silicone. |
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SBL74 Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2013 Posts: 125 Location: Treasure Island, FL
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: attaching "Volkswagen" script to rear hatch |
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I would use RTV or silicone but I cannot find a script that does NOT have the studs. I hate buy one and have to grind them off. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16970 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: attaching "Volkswagen" script to rear hatch |
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SBL74 wrote: |
I would use RTV or silicone but I cannot find a script that does NOT have the studs. I hate buy one and have to grind them off. |
If the door still has the stud holes and the script still has the studs it’s perfect. Use clear rtv on the script, slide the studs into the holes, and then use tape to hold the script in place for several hours. Perfectly aligned and will stay in place a very long time. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Wasted youth Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 5134 Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: attaching "Volkswagen" script to rear hatch |
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FWIW... this is how the 'automatic' emblem is attached to my 1973 bus. The emblem pins are held captive by rubber lugs:
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51145 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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SBL74 Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2013 Posts: 125 Location: Treasure Island, FL
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: attaching "Volkswagen" script to rear hatch |
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No, when repainting the bus, the PO filled the holes for the emblems both in the front and the back.
I will look around for the script without the studs. I still remember a site that sold SS or aluminum ones with the tape already installed, and no studs. Should have bookmarked that!
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ChipWrecked Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2012 Posts: 89 Location: SE PA
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robinclwch Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2021 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:28 am Post subject: Re: attaching "Volkswagen" script to rear hatch |
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Hi, how do you take the script off? I can see 4 rubber pieces on the inside but I don’t want to force anything in case it breaks, thanks. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51145 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:49 am Post subject: Re: attaching "Volkswagen" script to rear hatch |
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robinclwch wrote: |
Hi, how do you take the script off? I can see 4 rubber pieces on the inside but I don’t want to force anything in case it breaks, thanks. |
Welcome!
Those are one way push clips, if you twist them while pulling away you can usually get them to thread off the stud, but occasionally they just turn and turn, that requires cutting them away a bit at a time with a dremel. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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