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| I think we're looking at a 1962 crankcase, not 1952. It has the larger, 40hp sump plate and the spacing of the "1-4-3-2" is much closer than earlier blocks, but the lettering does not appear as large as the mid-'60s cases. |
It looks like a '60 case or a later replacement case.
'60 had the boss for the drain plug but it was not drilled. This means that all replacement cases made after that point would have the same detail.
since the s/n is for a '51 at some point the engine was replaced with either a factory replacement 36 hp long block or the dealer built up a 36 hp long block and the case was stamped with the car's original engine's s/n.
It is definitely not a '62 case. '61 and later would be a 40 horse case with the bolt on stand.
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As I understand it, it is in the form of day month (shift)year.
19 = day
12 = month
22 = year (2nd shift) 1952
0 = 1950, 1 = 1951, 2 = 1952, 3 = 1953, 4 = 1954, 5 = 1955, etc |
i have a cylinderhead i was trying to get info. stamps (12) (5) (43) 3
so... do i have a may 5 1943 ? what is that bigger 3 ? U and H? 04.02 ?
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| nlorntson wrote: |
As I understand it, it is in the form of day month (shift)year.
19 = day
12 = month
22 = year (2nd shift) 1952
0 = 1950, 1 = 1951, 2 = 1952, 3 = 1953, 4 = 1954, 5 = 1955, etc |
i have a cylinderhead i was trying to get info. stamps (12) (5) (43) 3
so... do i have a may 5 1943 ? what is that bigger 3 ? U and H? 04.02 ?
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I'm not an expert, I think it's 12th May 43. The H in a circle is the identifying mark of the company that cast it for VW, cant remember the companies name, begins with H unsupprisingly. They also cast gearbox casings, etc. I don't know what the U is about. I'm guessing that the 04.02 relates to the mould it was cast in, they are sometimes revised and also replaced after so many castings. |
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Can you help or shed some insight...
My case number is odd as it doesn't have the 1- in front.
I guessing it's a replacement.
My car is a feb '54.
The engine case is 0730261. It's a 36hp with some donor parts from a 56-58 vintage, but will be returned back to correct during the rebuild.
The date stamp says
20 4 20.
Does that mean the case was made on April 20th, 2nd shift, of 1950?
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nlorntson
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Looks like a February 1954 to me. Usually the replacements have a letter or two in front of the numbers. U guess it could have been a replacement that someone punched in the correct numbers into.
Since your car is a 54, maybe send in that engine number with your request for a birth certificate and you'll know for sure. |
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TheLadyBug
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| nlorntson wrote: |
Looks like a February 1954 to me. Usually the replacements have a letter or two in front of the numbers. U guess it could have been a replacement that someone punched in the correct numbers into.
Since your car is a 54, maybe send in that engine number with your request for a birth certificate and you'll know for sure. |
I did and the number was not a match according to the BC.
Because it's missing the 1- infront is why I was questioning if it was a replacement.
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Can you help or shed some insight...
My case number is odd as it doesn't have the 1- in front.
I guessing it's a replacement.
My car is a feb '54.
The engine case is 0730261. It's a 36hp with some donor parts from a 56-58 vintage, but will be returned back to correct during the rebuild.
The date stamp says
20 4 20.
Does that mean the case was made on April 20th, 2nd shift, of 1950? |
20th day, fourth month, second shift, 1960. The case halves should have nine-digit part numbers ie: 111 101 102 or similar cast in below the lifter bores.
Serial number is likely locally stamped...
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Since this thread also being a FAQ-sticky in other forums I thought I’d share a mystery concerning my “big window” 36hp engine here.
By the looks of it pretty much everything seems to be factory stock from the 28PCI carb down to all the electrical items being stamped 9Q or 10Q (manufactured on Sep or Oct 59). The thing is it appears as if the case is cast later than what the engine # suggests?
Also I wonder if the heads are stamped in a comparable date/month/shift/year system to the core?
Engine # engraved on the generator stand is 3 219 988 (indicating early October 59). Casting marks on both case halves are “29 10 39” (cast on 29 Oct 59). Though I have no BC I believe this is likely to be a numbers matching car built in early Nov 59 (VIN 2 705 725). The casting date therefore could match the car, but the engine # is off by almost four weeks earlier? How can that possibly be?
Left cylinder head marked “7 11 20”, while the right one is marked “19 5 14”. Have they been replaced at some point or are they just randomly marked right from the start?
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it is quite amazing at what rate they pumped out cars back then.
my december 59 (registered) was vin 2726010, don't ask me why i still remember the vin number of my first car 
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| Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Engine case production date |
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EverettB
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: Engine case production date |
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19 12 49
should be 19th day of 12th month, 4th shift, 1959
I haven't examined a million cases but I can't remember seeing a 4th shift though.
Only 1,2,3
It might help to see more photos so we could see other attributes of the case like the area where the oil filler might screw in and whether it has a oil drain bolt or an undrilled area there.
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Engine case production date |
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I'm curious about these two motors I have here..I did post them in my thread but figured I'd check here as well..
The first one by the serial number puts this at November '59..however the date stamps put it at the first run of June 28th 1955?..Also notice the later rubber holders on shroud for spark plug wires...
The second one also looks a little newer because of the holes in the shroud for spark plug wire holders..But has the E stamp before the number and WD in smaller below it..I'm thinking "exchange" case? The date numbers on this one say 14-3-10 which would mean March 14 1960 first run...I don't think it would be 1950..
I look forward to your opinions
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