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greggl4321
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 Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:42 am Post subject: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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Is a pit bike the cheapester motorized form of transportation
was looking at everything, motorized bikes, scooters, stand up scooters (thinking they were the best, the even can come with a seat, but I live in Cali so the shiftable one is banned, why )
Whats best
Whats cheapest, best deal for buck |
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hitest
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of stransportation LOOk |
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This will probably get moved to off-topic, but here's an opinion: Used Honda elite/aero scooter from the 80s.
Have some shred of dignity. Pit bikes are for guys who tipped over a Ninja once and couldn't lift it back up.
Now if you can't qualify for an SR-22 and your DUI is keeping you out of a license for a year- then a powered bike or go-ped is the way to go. You've already lost your girlfriend so there's no dignity at stake. Around here anyway, that's the in-thing to pedal when you're a license-revoked, hoofin' it walmart biker clubin' kinda guy. Be extra cool and tune the thing to run at 35mph and never, ever use lights or a helmet.
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windfish
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of stransportation LOOk |
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| hitest wrote: |
| but here's an opinion: Used Honda elite/aero scooter from the 80s. |
Yep.. I've got a little '98 Honda Elite SE and it's adorable, picked it up for a few hundred.
Bizarre to think it's almost 20 years old; it'll do 25mph stock, 35 if you remove the restrictors.
Pic - http://i.imgur.com/jW8ir5e.jpg
Most pit bikes aren't street legal as sold, did a quick search and found this snip for California -
"Any off-highway motorcycle purchased after December 31, 2003 is not eligible for on-highway or dual use registration unless the manufacturer originally certified the vehicle to meet the California on-highway emission standards."
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/blog/2015/02/25/legit-dirt-bike-street-legal/
You'll have to look a little more into that if you want to go down that path. |
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Cali_Army_Guy
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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Buy a used Grom. 130+ mpg and a 60mph top speed.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of stransportation LOOk |
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| windfish wrote: |
| hitest wrote: |
| but here's an opinion: Used Honda elite/aero scooter from the 80s. |
Yep.. I've got a little '98 Honda Elite SE and it's adorable, picked it up for a few hundred.
Bizarre to think it's almost 20 years old; it'll do 25mph stock, 35 if you remove the restrictors.
Pic - http://i.imgur.com/jW8ir5e.jpg |
Off the topic but did they make them slower or restrict them at some point?
I had an '86 a long time ago and it maxed out at around 40mph.
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windfish
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:23 am Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of stransportation LOOk |
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Off the topic but did they make them slower or restrict them at some point?
I had an '86 a long time ago and it maxed out at around 40mph. |
Legal thing.. NC limits mopeds to 30mph, some other states just specify a 50cc engine.
My 50cc Elite SE came with a restrictor plate welded in the exhaust, a limiter on the transmission, and a smaller jet. Kept it from running >25mph, easy enough to fix. |
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of stransportation LOOk |
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| windfish wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
Off the topic but did they make them slower or restrict them at some point?
I had an '86 a long time ago and it maxed out at around 40mph. |
Legal thing.. NC limits mopeds to 30mph, some other states just specify a 50cc engine.
My 50cc Elite SE came with a restrictor plate welded in the exhaust, a limiter on the transmission, and a smaller jet. Kept it from running >25mph, easy enough to fix. |
Most states also define a moped as having bicycle pedals. Without them, it's a motorized scooter/ motorcycle. Does NC actually classify the Elite as a moped?
Interestingly enough, Idaho does not recognize a moped, so even though I have clear title to both of mine, I cannot get an ID title nor can I register and insure mine. All of the cops I have spoken with about it just said to ride it anyway.
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windfish
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of stransportation LOOk |
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| cdennisg wrote: |
Most states also define a moped as having bicycle pedals. Without them, it's a motorized scooter/ motorcycle. Does NC actually classify the Elite as a moped?
Interestingly enough, Idaho does not recognize a moped, so even though I have clear title to both of mine, I cannot get an ID title nor can I register and insure mine. All of the cops I have spoken with about it just said to ride it anyway. |
Yep,
"State statute defines a moped as having "two or three wheels, no external shifter, with a motor not to exceed 50 cubic centimeters of piston displacement and up to 30 mph propulsion on a level surface."
And prior to 2015 you didn't even need to register a moped in NC. Now they need plates and insurance to be road legal.. still don't need a license.
Today I learned that moped laws vary quite a bit state to state - http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/mopeds-other/ |
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of stransportation LOOk |
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| windfish wrote: |
| cdennisg wrote: |
Most states also define a moped as having bicycle pedals. Without them, it's a motorized scooter/ motorcycle. Does NC actually classify the Elite as a moped?
Interestingly enough, Idaho does not recognize a moped, so even though I have clear title to both of mine, I cannot get an ID title nor can I register and insure mine. All of the cops I have spoken with about it just said to ride it anyway. |
Yep,
"State statute defines a moped as having "two or three wheels, no external shifter, with a motor not to exceed 50 cubic centimeters of piston displacement and up to 30 mph propulsion on a level surface."
And prior to 2015 you didn't even need to register a moped in NC. Now they need plates and insurance to be road legal.. still don't need a license.
Today I learned that moped laws vary quite a bit state to state - http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/mopeds-other/ |
Interesting read. Funny that the short description of Idaho's rules partly contradict what I found when I researched them last year.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:04 am Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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Look up honda super cub. The most popular vehicle in the world and you've probably never seen one.
Most pit bikes are based on real low cost motorcycles, sold in america as toys. They don't sell the actual bikes here very often because nobody wants to buy them and/or they don't fit in with the laws. You need a low cost, bare bones motorcycle, but it is very hard to buy a real one here.
The problem with pit bikes is they are toys and toys don't need to work, so a lot of them ARE crap quality.
Get a REAL name brand, if it's toy size or full size.
I had a mini-chopper, all chinese made parts, it was darn cool....but I could not sell it. Everybody that wanted to buy it was in bad shape, wanted it to use as a real vehicle.....but I could not take their money, because this think was a TOY, it's break some part every other time I'd ride it and that's fine for ME, but that's not going to work for them. |
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Zeen
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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| Look up honda super cub. The most popular vehicle in the world and you've probably never seen one. |
The Honda CT 90 is a variant of the Super Cub that was sold here. Very capable little bike, it has a dual-range transmission, so it can go 50 mph on the road and climb steep hills off-road. They are somewhat collectible, so you can get your money back out of it when you sell, unlike most bikes that crash in value.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CT90
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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| Zeen wrote: |
| modok wrote: |
| Look up honda super cub. The most popular vehicle in the world and you've probably never seen one. |
The Honda CT 90 is a variant of the Super Cub that was sold here. Very capable little bike, it has a dual-range transmission, so it can go 50 mph on the road and climb steep hills off-road. They are somewhat collectible, so you can get your money back out of it when you sell, unlike most bikes that crash in value.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CT90 |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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| modok wrote: |
| Look up honda super cub. The most popular vehicle in the world and you've probably never seen one. |
I own a 1965.
While I'm not as sexy as Ann-Margret in "Viva Las Vegas" while riding it - it's my commuter to/from work and running errands in the spring, summer and fall.
It's comfortable and easy to ride (even if I'm a bit too tall for it), 3-speed w/automatic clutch, gets around 175mpg, very simple to work on (if you ever need to) and doesn't require insurance or a license endorsement (in my state).
The taller tires are much better on rough surfaces than the small tires on a Vespa, Spree, or other popular scooters.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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Yamaha Zuma scooter….. The older two-strokers are the way to go….
Will do 40 stock, 50+for not much money...
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| Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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Everybody makes fun of my 1975 Honda ST90 saying it's not a real motorcycle like their "hogs", but they ALL ask if they can ride it.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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Everybody makes fun of my 1975 Honda ST90 saying it's not a real motorcycle like their "hogs", but they ALL ask if they can ride it.
Geoff |
"Only if I get to ride yours" usually shuts them up.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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| modok wrote: |
| Look up honda super cub. The most popular vehicle in the world and you've probably never seen one. |
I own a 1965.
While I'm not as sexy as Ann-Margret in "Viva Las Vegas" while riding it - it's my commuter to/from work and running errands in the spring, summer and fall.
It's comfortable and easy to ride (even if I'm a bit too tall for it), 3-speed w/automatic clutch, gets around 175mpg, very simple to work on (if you ever need to) and doesn't require insurance or a license endorsement (in my state).
The taller tires are much better on rough surfaces than the small tires on a Vespa, Spree, or other popular scooters.
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I will have to put my vote on the Super Cub as well. The wifey has one and we have souped it up a bit. Most fun bike in our collection. We have put a Lifan 125cc engine in and put a few more hop up parts on it. All 6'1 and 220lbs of me has had it up to 65mph. Here is a video of a new stainless exhaust install.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:17 am Post subject: Re: Pit bikes as an alternative form of transportation |
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one each CT90 and CT110. thinking about upgrading the CT110 with an ATC125M engine.
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