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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33882 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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planenut wrote: |
How many of you actually keep a constant check on your oil pressure light when you're cruising down the road. Especially on a long trip in the bright sunlight? I think the beeper idea is an excellent idea. Most all modern aircraft use some sort of attention getter when a warning light comes on. If you lost oil pressure 30 seconds after the last time you looked, it'd save your engine. |
A beeper is good, but a loud stereo can overpower it.
I replaced my oil (and gen) light with LEDs, which are instant and much brighter, visible even in daylight. |
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Cali_Army_Guy Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2015 Posts: 2094 Location: Stockton, CA
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:28 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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planenut wrote: |
How many of you actually keep a constant check on your oil pressure light when you're cruising down the road. |
I do, buuuut it's an old habit from being a truck driver. Look out the windshield for a few seconds, look in the right side mirror, look back out windshield, look in the left side mirror, look out windshield, look down at gauges, look out the windshield. Then you just keep repeating that cycle your entire drive. This serves a couple purposes. It keeps you looking in your mirrors for up coming traffic, emergency vehicles, etc. It keeps you looking at all your gauges/lights. And most importantly it keeps you awake. If you just blankly stare out the windshield for hours on end you get drowsy. By keeping your eyes moving every few seconds in all different directions it keeps you more alert. _________________ 2015 VW Passat Wolfsburg Edition
1966 VW Beetle - Sold |
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79SuperVert Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 9758 Location: Elizabeth, NJ & La Isla Del Encanto
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:03 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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Good habit. Driver training courses always emphasize the need to keep your eyes moving from mirror to mirror to dashboard to road. Unfortunately, all the new driver alert technology being installed in cars speaks to the fact that people have forgotten this very effective technique and need technology to snap them out of their stupor. _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
Wanted: Art Collins VW (Savannah, Georgia) items - license plate surrounds and other items. Also ivory "AM", "FM" and "SW" buttons for a US Blaupunkt Frankfurt. |
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weinerbug Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2008 Posts: 226 Location: Brighton, MI
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:57 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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I put in new Tar Boards with the restoration back in 2008. The first to go were the side triangular pieces. they curled up and deformed. Now the board behind the engine is deformed and crumbly. I can't remember where I got the boards but it was from one of the reputable suppliers. I think the material needs to be researched and improved.
Going to tear mine out before it gets pulled into the fan.. _________________ Marcus
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vwnut1 Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2012 Posts: 495 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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I found a waffle pattern "peel and still" sound deadening material on the web. If applied correctly over clean paint in the engine bay it would look original, deaden sound and not peel up. Would love to hear from anyone who has installed it. _________________ 1957 VW Oval Resto Mod |
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bugheadred Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2003 Posts: 666
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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just a reminder to look |
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vwuberalles Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2003 Posts: 1355 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:59 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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Good post, I'd never thought of that! I tried to remove mine so I could clean up the engine bay and check for rust before my motor goes back in, now I don't feel bad about it crumbling into a thousand pieces when I pulled it out! I'm just going to leave it out then. I'd rather see my clean original Ruby red paint than those ugly tar boards anyway. _________________ 1973 Superbeetle: 1st car, owned since age 12. Update thread --> https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9919140#9919140
1967 Kombi: Owned since age 17, Dad's retirement project.
1966 Beetle: My new project. (SOLD) Build thread--> https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=678040 |
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boxkiteflyer Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 261 Location: Taylorsville, KY
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:45 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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The tar boars look the part but I left them off my '59 and will leave them off my '57. The next owners of my cars, after I die, can do with them as they wish! |
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bluebus86 Banned
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075
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davidw99 Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2003 Posts: 696 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:17 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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Zylinderkopf wrote: |
Chris Vallone sells his own brand of tar boards. Anyone here have any experience with these?
https://youtu.be/MnHeCHHx9B8 |
These look like what I got from West Coast Metric. They are thinner than the originals. I haven't installed them yet; still doing engine and trans work and waiting for it to warm up to paint the engine compartment. _________________ Dave
'73 Saturn Yellow Sports Bug that has undergone a full pan off restoration. "Herbert IV."
'67 Sedan. "Bellamy." Currently being "refreshed" and recently repainted. |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26298 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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Has anyone ever sold a "complete" firewall kit? One that includes not only some decently thick and shaped tar boards, but also the fibre strips that were placed between it and the metal firewall?
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davidw99 Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2003 Posts: 696 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:39 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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When I rebuilt my '73 I used strips of felt trunk carpeting I bought at a local parts store. I think CIP has what they refer to as "Thick" tar board. _________________ Dave
'73 Saturn Yellow Sports Bug that has undergone a full pan off restoration. "Herbert IV."
'67 Sedan. "Bellamy." Currently being "refreshed" and recently repainted. |
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Sahara74 Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2013 Posts: 150 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:32 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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I replaced the crumbling original boards in my 66 a few years back with WW's set. Quality was comparable to OG. The trick was to carefully unbend and preserve all of the little stabby metal prongs that when bent over anchor the boards to the firewall. As I recall there were a bunch. Good Luck ! |
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HippyTom Samba Member
Joined: December 18, 2013 Posts: 676 Location: Florida, West Pasco
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:12 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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vwnut1 wrote: |
I found a waffle pattern "peel and still" sound deadening material on the web. If applied correctly over clean paint in the engine bay it would look original, deaden sound and not peel up. Would love to hear from anyone who has installed it. |
Can you post a link to it? I'd like to check it out and maybe try it.
My 63 has the original in fantastic condition, but my 62 needs attention. I put new in it several years ago but it looks like crap (like smooth thin cardboard with no pattern) and sucks (drooping). I'm looking for alternatives. Thanks. |
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bugheadred Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2003 Posts: 666
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:21 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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another reminder check them tar boards |
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cyclehobby Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2013 Posts: 156 Location: North Jersey
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:21 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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I installed the Chris Vallone tar boards and they're really nice. Fit is perfect and the quality is superb.
They look clean once installed (using the original barbs that are attached to the firewall) and though I also have sound deadener on the interior of my Bug, I think they add a bit of sound insulation as well.
The old, original style tar boards had begun to sag and I was afraid they'd get sucked into the fan. Turns out, in my case, the old boards were sagged, but very hard. I don't think they would have come off, but better safe than sorry. Plus, the new tar boards look great! _________________ 1967 Beetle
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preachermanNC Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2018 Posts: 85 Location: Wilkesboro, NC
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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I noticed a significant price difference between classicvws.com and west coast metric's tar boards ($80 w/ shipping [classicvws] vs. 29.99 + shipping [wcm]). If they're similar, reckon why such a difference in price? Both are USA-made in house, and from what I can tell, both are reputable suppliers. _________________ “Henry” 1972 Super Beetle
AD case 1600cc SP
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graz126 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2020 Posts: 49 Location: Doncaster England
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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Obviously it would be easier to fit tar boards with the engine out. But can they be fitted easily enough with the engine in? |
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car_cursed Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2008 Posts: 127 Location: Salt lake
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:09 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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preachermanNC wrote: |
I noticed a significant price difference between classicvws.com and west coast metric's tar boards ($80 w/ shipping [classicvws] vs. 29.99 + shipping [wcm]). If they're similar, reckon why such a difference in price? Both are USA-made in house, and from what I can tell, both are reputable suppliers. |
I bought the classic VW ones to support Chris and his channel. I have used many of his videos as guides and figured it was the least I could do. They are also very nice. |
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car_cursed Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2008 Posts: 127 Location: Salt lake
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:10 am Post subject: Re: tar boards motor compartment |
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graz126 wrote: |
Obviously it would be easier to fit tar boards with the engine out. But can they be fitted easily enough with the engine in? |
Yes, I had to pull mine to make some adjustments, it will be easier if they are at least warm so they are more pliable |
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