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Wasted youth Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 5134 Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Front end |
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That looks like a lot of fun! 😆 |
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ALOHA 72 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2015 Posts: 201 Location: Kauai
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Front end |
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Is like therapy... good thing i did it the shocks are gone and the steering shock was rusted shot |
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ALOHA 72 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2015 Posts: 201 Location: Kauai
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:10 am Post subject: Re: Front end |
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Good morning everyone,
I need to get the grease out of this tubes it smells nasty. I been searching for how to remove the bars and greasy but no luck.
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coolerthanelvis Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2003 Posts: 924 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Front end |
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The bars are the torsion springs. They are held in the beam by the set screw in the center of each tube. Loosen the nut then remove the set screw. You could put one of the torsion arms back on one side and use that to pull the springs out if tapping one side with a rubber mallet doesn't get them moving. _________________ Shawn
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'68 Westy
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lil-jinx Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2013 Posts: 1109 Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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ALOHA 72 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2015 Posts: 201 Location: Kauai
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: Front end |
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Thanks, any tread about how is done? I look on YT but i can find anything.
I hate to got this far and dont change the grease or the springs inside. |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Front end |
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ALOHA 71 wrote: |
Thanks, any tread about how is done? I look on YT but i can find anything.
I hate to got this far and dont change the grease or the springs inside. |
Was the front end sagging? Is there rust on the torsion bars? If the answer to both of these questons is no I would not change them. As for the grease, pumping new grease into the fittings ever few thousand miles keeps the grease in pretty decent shape. If you remove the grease, you will have to puts lots and lots back in to fill the voids in the tube. |
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lil-jinx Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2013 Posts: 1109 Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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ALOHA 72 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2015 Posts: 201 Location: Kauai
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:10 am Post subject: Re: Front end |
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thanks, I decided to leave the grease and springs along. |
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ALOHA 72 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2015 Posts: 201 Location: Kauai
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Front end |
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I had to remove the shift rod to get the frame out and this is what i found.
There was a tread here about the front shift rod, if anyone can help me find it it will be great.
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SamboSamba22 Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2015 Posts: 2772 Location: Benton, Arkansas
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5688 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:21 am Post subject: Re: Front end |
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Hopefully this isn't too much of a thread-jack. Just seems to be on topic.
I think I really need to do this with both my Buses. The '78, if nothing else, has some rot on the torsion bar frame so it should be either repaired or replaced.
The '73s steering is kinda loosy-goosy now, and very recently (like the last couple weeks or so) has developed a bit of a "Clunk" when turning just toward the right. It doesn't happen every time, just occasionally and is very difficult to get to repeat. Though one (only one) time at a stop light I could get it to do it over and over.
I crawled under to glance at everything but didn't see anything obviously loose or worn.
I can kind of feel it in the steering wheel, and it seems to be just below.
Any idea what it might be?
I've seen a few reconditioned front ends offered for sale. Since I maybe should just replace the one on the '78, it would certainly be easier to buy one all ready to go. Any recommendations? _________________ Dave Cook
President, Wild Westerner Club
1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
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ALOHA 72 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2015 Posts: 201 Location: Kauai
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:39 am Post subject: Re: Front end |
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this is where i am with the front end rebuilt,
i got most of the parts just waiting for the sway bar in the mean time this is what got done.
I hope the put back together goes well...
this rust reformer works great
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lil-jinx Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2013 Posts: 1109 Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:09 am Post subject: Re: Front end |
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If you decide to clean out the old grease you can just pull the leaf springs out part way,so that they don't go pass the center block in the middle of the tubes and clean one side at a time.That will allow you to remove most of the old grease with out having to deal with getting the leaves back into the proper position. _________________ https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620186
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=668799
1974 Bay Westfalia. she likes to be called Ethel.
1968 Dune Buggy
1974 parts bus
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SamboSamba22 Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2015 Posts: 2772 Location: Benton, Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Front end |
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lil-jinx wrote: |
If you decide to clean out the old grease you can just pull the leaf springs out part way,so that they don't go pass the center block in the middle of the tubes and clean one side at a time.That will allow you to remove most of the old grease with out having to deal with getting the leaves back into the proper position. |
Great tip! _________________ The Bus Barn Ltd. Co.
Oct. ’67 Double Cab (’68 Crew Cab)
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March '69 Delivery (Panel Bus)
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ALOHA 72 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2015 Posts: 201 Location: Kauai
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Front end |
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Great tip, thank you. |
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ALOHA 72 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2015 Posts: 201 Location: Kauai
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Front end |
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I think i am missing a washer on the new pin kit. will i be able to purchase just this washer?
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hazetguy Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10773 Location: iT StiNgeD iTseLf tO dEAd
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Front end |
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ALOHA 71 wrote: |
I think i am missing a washer on the new pin kit. will i be able to purchase just this washer?
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that, to me, looks like a split bus kit (and a poor quality one at that).
who made it, and what is the part number of your kit? 171 is split, 171A is bay. _________________ thebucket: I invested in hoodride, now DBD won't return my call?
hazetguy: invested?
thebucket: Yeah Haze, its where people put money into a company in hopes of a return on their money |
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ALOHA 72 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2015 Posts: 201 Location: Kauai
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Front end |
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You're right, It looks cheap
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Yarkle Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: the Hills of Western Maine
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Front end |
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im the one who did the thread with the tutorial sgkent mentioned (which i need to update!)
if youve already got the beam out of the bus, its really not that much work to just pull and clean them, its actually pretty easy. but as lil-jinx suggests, if you are worried you can just get the majority of the grease out by only going halfway on each side.
the swing lever (i think i mention that in my thread) is also pretty easy to do if you use the press made out of threaded rod and a bunch of sockets. Tcash and Colin both have really good writeups on it.
EDIT: check out pages 2, 3 and 5 of the weld busler thread in my sig _________________ Tilda the Mustard Tigress 1973 Squareback (o'''^'''o)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=771024&highlight= |
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