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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

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Intriguing. How do you check run out without the pilot bearing?


The mainshaft bearings are in place. That is where the input shaft seal goes. It doesn't support anything.

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Nice pattern. Is the grease with the more forward mark the decelerate side?


I forget. I would have to look at it again and watch things move. That's the first time I've ever set up a new R&P. I'm sure someone who does this every day can answer that question better.


Never done that work, I though I was being ballsy pulling the center section out of my 356 and taking it in to be inspected. Impressive work Greg.


Thanks, it was a lot of fun. I'm sure I'll do it again next time. Reading through the book the first time gave me a headache. Now it makes sense. It's just all basic algebra, measure a ton of pieces and write out the formula and figure out what shims to use. Or do it all by feel which is how our buddy Gary likes to do it because he can get the job done faster that way. I think the grease contact pattern is really only used when setting up a new ring and pinion, and that is because the measurements will only get you in the ballpark, you really gotta see how the two gears talk to each other.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

Hopefully, this is all a sign it will be rolling soon, and you’ll post pics of it or even a video of it running around. Waiting not so patiently here Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

Keep up the good work Greg I think I have reread your build several times and it's always like the first time, a refreshing look at my favorite year.

Greg what is the build date?

Best factory color combo ever.
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

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Intriguing. How do you check run out without the pilot bearing?


The mainshaft bearings are in place. That is where the input shaft seal goes. It doesn't support anything.

I hear ya but I meant the flywheel pilot bearing. I thought that part of the mainshaft unscrewed with the sliding sleeve and was separate and dangly.


That wobbly thing with the little screw and sleeve started with the tunnel type transmissions. Maybe to reduce noise? Those are a lot easier and faster to take apart and rebuild.

The splitcase transmissions are one solid shaft end to end:

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If first gear or second gear gets chewed up (they almost always are) you have to replace that whole piece to fix it.

Dang me, take a rope and hang me! Thanks for straightening me out (pun intended).

I checked the http://oacdp.org to see wtf before I posted first and it showed, "tunnel case gears", "synchromesh gears", as the same solid shaft so I figured they just didn't draw it in. "Fully synchronized gears" shows it which makes sense.

Carry on with the bitchen' build.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

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Keep up the good work Greg I think I have reread your build several times and it's always like the first time, a refreshing look at my favorite year.

Greg what is the build date?


Thanks!

October 7th 1955 according to the birth certificate from the auto museum.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

Your twin?
http://www.benpon.nl/index.php/line-up

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

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Cool photo!

That particular bus started out as a double door panel.

Windows, subhatch, etc, are all more recent additions. It has a '59-61 So-23 kit in it now.

I would expect my bus or Jim's bus is where he got the inspiration for the colors.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

Shocked

Nice update! I think I saw on Joe Ruiz’s site....there’s an Okrasa motor for this, correct?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

Oh boy, here we go!! Thanks for the update!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

Thanks a ton Clara! Stunning absolutely stunning and super cool not to show the entire bus so we can continue eating popcorn for this show. Popcorn

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

I'd been saving these VW logo axle boots for this project:

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One of them split during install. That's a bit of a downer. I ended up using one of the NOS ones and one new one from WW. Wonder which one will leak first?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

Got the trans mostly together on the stand.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

And then my buddy Alex (50ate) helped me stuff it into the bus. Bumper off, shift rod in, trans in.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

gunna be awesome when you go flying through your first huge mud puddle on the Shasta snow trip!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

Looks great! I love this build.
At least the boot split now... and not 20 miles down the road.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

You Small Nut guys make me jealous on the RGB install part.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

Are the plates necessary to hold the axles out for a split-case transmission?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Yellow & Tan '56 Subhatch Westy - 20-147419 Reply with quote

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Are the plates necessary to hold the axles out for a split-case transmission?


Axles in you mean? No, as far as I know the fulcrum plates can't slip behind on a splitcase.
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