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geneL3c Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:18 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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I'll try Sam Steel again on Monday, he doesn't seem to respond with anything other than a pre-programmed message unless you e-mail him during Spanish work hours, taking into consideration the different time zone. I think there is a 5-hour difference to EST. Gene |
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geneL3c Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:20 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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fifty-eight rag, the ambulance sounds like a really cool project, but I believe it also was on the Kublewagen chassis ? Gene |
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Fifty-Eight Rag Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:21 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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bakersam wrote: |
Regardless, the ambulance idea sounds easier, more fun, and less expensive as no one knows much about the ambulance version save the few period photos. By all means have fun with it, but don't dig yourself into a hole you can't afford to lose when it comes time to move it along. Replicas are great, but at the end of the day they're still just that. |
Oh I agree completely...it's just a 50s era Bug converted.
Actually I am way ahead of the game since my base vehicle body is a Frankenstein of 4 vehicles to make one. I love challenges with metal repair...welding wire is cheap enough. _________________ 1956 Oval
and a barn full of VW parts
1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298
1967 Beetle Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495269&highlight=larrys |
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Fifty-Eight Rag Samba Member
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geneL3c Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:36 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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fifty-eight rag, Just went through your Oval window build thread, very impressive work, you should have no problem doing your Ambulance ! Gene |
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Fifty-Eight Rag Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:12 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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geneL3c wrote: |
fifty-eight rag, Just went through your Oval window build thread, very impressive work, you should have no problem doing your Ambulance ! Gene |
Thank you.
This particular project car has been all over the map throughout the almost 10 years I've been messing with it.
Started out to just be a street driven 58 sliding rag, then morphed into an oval build...now thinking VERY seriously about the 82e ambulance. It seems like the perfect platform for a replica...relatively early body, pieced together like a patchwork quilt...no real value to it.
What I'll probably do is set aside all my good "oval" parts for the future. I want to eventually do a correct nut and bolt restoration to an oval window that has matching numbers. _________________ 1956 Oval
and a barn full of VW parts
1956 Oval build thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
1962 Single Cab Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7959298#7959298
1967 Beetle Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=495269&highlight=larrys |
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geneL3c Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2007 Posts: 296 Location: Bridgehampton,NY
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:23 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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I sympathize with you about long term projects. My Typ 87 started as a Typ82e many years ago and I am just now in a position to put it on the front burner. I have had too many project ideas pulling me in different directions with the result that none of them really got the attention needed to complete even the simplest. Now that I'm focused on one, it seems to be finally moving forward with a practical plan for completion. It took me many years to even find the proper donor car because, as you mentioned, you didn't want to " violate " a good original. Even my '50 Split Window sits awaiting installation of one of John Henry's amazing wiring harnesses to get it back on the road. Gene |
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bakersam Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2006 Posts: 119 Location: Washington DC
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:32 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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Gene, Regarding Steel. I'd written them last month regarding availability of a specific part (one of their repro "T" air cleaners). They quickly responded that they'd be available in February. I received an email earlier this week that they now had them if I was still interested. I responded "Yes" (then got their out of office message in response), and paid. I got the tracking number a day or two later...all since this past Monday. I think more than one person picks up the email on their end, and this has more to do with their responsiveness (or lack thereof) than anything else I can deduce. I've done significant business with Steel over the years, and always got a response...sometimes sooner...sometimes later. |
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geneL3c Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:55 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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bakersam, Thanks for the hopeful update, I will keep trying until he accepts my order, since obviously SOMEONE is awake there ! Gene |
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Fifty-Eight Rag Samba Member
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geneL3c Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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No doubt it's a perfect museum quality restoration, but somehow I don't think they looked that good new from the factory ! Having said that, it certainly is the yardstick for accuracy. The other gallery has some very interesting original condition artifacts. Gene |
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geneL3c Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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Larry, If you haven't already found it, the Ambulance appears to be a Typ 83
" Kastenwagen ". Google search for " images " has some interesting photos. Gene |
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geneL3c Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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Mike, That would be my guess, wartime needs would probably be more important than perfect records ? Gene |
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geneL3c Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:08 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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Mike, I got a couple of 1:35 model kits made by CMK in Czechoslovacia that have really good detail, I think I saw one for the ambulance when I Googled the Typ 83. Gene |
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Second Air Force Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:15 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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Here's a photo of Typ numbers when the British had control. I nipped this from Etzold's volume 2 of Beetle Chronicles. (It does say 83 when you see the image in person, sorta looks like 85 in the photo).
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geneL3c Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:18 am Post subject: Re: WWII era Beetle |
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Mike, Well here we go again, sent an order in to Sam Steel and not surprising I got back the standard response, " not taking orders, try again in March " ! Some way to run a business. I'm starting to think maybe he just doesn't like Americans ? Gene |
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