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zonevw Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2012 Posts: 4 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:03 am Post subject: Cam selection 2276 |
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Looking for ideas / suggestions on what cam to use for 2276cc in 67 BJ/IRS
T1 Stock body, maybe a bit heavier with roll cage, dry sump set up, 901 5 speed and extra equipment. ideal rev range 3000 to 6000
to be used for dirt rallys and hillclimbs , no drags or daily driver
Rather have a flat torque curve than maximum power at high revs
Specs 82 stroke x 94 bore 1.25 rockers CB l/w lifters 10.1 comp?
heads with match ported manifolds 44mm x 37.5mm valves
57.5cc combustion chambers and 75cc manifold volume
head flow lift cfm
3000 153 4000 186
5000 207 5500 213
6000 222
Exhaust Ahnendorp 1.5 in 900mm long into 2 in merged collector |
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UK Luke 72 Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2011 Posts: 2867 Location: Little Britain
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:48 am Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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Hi and welcome to The Samba
Why have you restricted yourself by determining the rocker ratio and CR before you have a cam?
Is the head flow at 25 or 28"? also am I reading that right?
Lift Flow
0.3" 153
0.4" 186
0.5" 207
0.55" 213
0.6" 222
Web 86b will put you at around 0.535" with 1.4:1, will provide many miles of smooth valvetrain and reliably too.
If you're sticking with the 1.25:1 then maybe an Engle w125
CR is about right for either cam.
Stick around, some people that actually know what they're on about will be here soon... So will 5lug _________________ 2276 Beetle build https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=670744&highlight=2276+beetle+daily
2276 EFI Conversion https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=689172 |
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jfats808 Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2007 Posts: 5022 Location: oahu hawaii
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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1.5 exhaust will be restrictive. _________________ 2276 IDA's 86C 11-1 DD !
2017 48 Trijet DRLA's W125
Rockstar Suzuki wrote: |
You might as well put 10 year build in your bullshit sig, as it will NEVER run. Also your a dick |
You can always learn something new, even from a fool.
Check your oil levels routinely! |
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zonevw Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2012 Posts: 4 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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UK Luke 72
Head flowed at 25in and yes you are reading it right
Already have new CB Perf lightweight lifters an 1.25 : 1 rockers
compression ratio is about maximum with readily available fuel
jfats808
Can change exhaust, only limitation is ground clearance
any problems with different brand cam and lifter?
thanks for your replies |
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jfats808 Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2007 Posts: 5022 Location: oahu hawaii
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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Make sure you find a cam that is Ep12 blank. Cb cams are made for their lifters. _________________ 2276 IDA's 86C 11-1 DD !
2017 48 Trijet DRLA's W125
Rockstar Suzuki wrote: |
You might as well put 10 year build in your bullshit sig, as it will NEVER run. Also your a dick |
You can always learn something new, even from a fool.
Check your oil levels routinely! |
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pondervwmike Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2017 Posts: 373 Location: Ponder(Dallas) Texas USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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How bout a CB 2292? _________________ 1967 Cal Look Beetle Street Car in re-restoration,customization. Mom and Dad bought it in 1983 when I was 4.
2010 VW Tiguan
2000 BMW 528i
1997 Jeep Cherokee
2127cc build thread https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=681556&highlight= |
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pondervwmike Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2017 Posts: 373 Location: Ponder(Dallas) Texas USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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Oh I see you already have 1.25 rockers and cb lifters. Maybe the CB 2246 would be good. _________________ 1967 Cal Look Beetle Street Car in re-restoration,customization. Mom and Dad bought it in 1983 when I was 4.
2010 VW Tiguan
2000 BMW 528i
1997 Jeep Cherokee
2127cc build thread https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=681556&highlight= |
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Dan Ruddock Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2012 Posts: 3594 Location: Sarasota, in my adopted state of Florida
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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pondervwmike wrote: |
How bout a CB 2292? |
If you like noisy valves and a shorter than normal valve job life this cam would be good for a person like that. It will make good power if that is the only thing you want.
Dan |
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pondervwmike Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2017 Posts: 373 Location: Ponder(Dallas) Texas USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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Dan Ruddock wrote: |
pondervwmike wrote: |
How bout a CB 2292? |
If you like noisy valves and a shorter than normal valve job life this cam would be good for a person like that. It will make good power if that is the only thing you want.
Dan |
Well it is a race car. _________________ 1967 Cal Look Beetle Street Car in re-restoration,customization. Mom and Dad bought it in 1983 when I was 4.
2010 VW Tiguan
2000 BMW 528i
1997 Jeep Cherokee
2127cc build thread https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=681556&highlight= |
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DeathBySnuSnu Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2012 Posts: 1183 Location: MS
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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That eagle 2246 mentioned above has been my all time favorite.
I ran one from 1981 until a couple years ago and always liked it.
I would still be using if my engine had not gotten bigger. |
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zonevw Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2012 Posts: 4 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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Thanks for info so far,
Any one used a CB 2210
seems similar to 2288 with a bit more lift.
according to CB website it is compatible with my light weight lifters |
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Brian_e Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 3292 Location: Rapid City, SD
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:21 am Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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I did one of the "Bigfoot" cams a few years ago just for fun. There was no nose on the cam. It was a peak. Like a point. I ran it, and it make big power for what it was, but after 5000 miles of noise I pulled it and replaced the guides. I did all the tricks to try and quiet it down, and nothing helped.
With 44mm intakes, 75cc intakes and 212cfm, I think you need a web 86c advanced 2deg. That is a lot of head, and you will need a pretty healthy cam to make them work. Your 3-6k power band it about right. A 1 5/8 to 1 3/4" step header would be ideal. .045" deck and 10.5-11cr will make it all work nice.
Brian |
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Dan Ruddock Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2012 Posts: 3594 Location: Sarasota, in my adopted state of Florida
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Cam selection 2276 |
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pondervwmike wrote: |
Dan Ruddock wrote: |
pondervwmike wrote: |
How bout a CB 2292? |
If you like noisy valves and a shorter than normal valve job life this cam would be good for a person like that. It will make good power if that is the only thing you want.
Dan |
Well it is a race car. |
What you fail to understand is you can get the same hammer-cam effect (and power-band) by running excess valve clearance with a more rationally designed cams like the Web 86 series.
With the 2292 the only choice you have is to run as tight a clearance as possible to keep it from total destruction. Why give up a tuning tool when you don't have to. The 2292 would be great cam with hydraulic lifters.
The cam I would recommend for 1.25 rockers would be the Web 163 with 12 degrees of added duration. About 262 @ .050"
Dan |
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-Alex77- Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2008 Posts: 513 Location: Finland
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