1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct!

[jays58s]

Here's a nice example of an April of '55 36hp, aside from the hideous fuel and oil filters lol.

[motofly196]

Is that a 1- case? Looks like it starts with 150? Cylinder tin looks later in the pic. But I'm looking at it on my phone, hard to tell. I'm still unsure on the fan shrouds, does 54-55 have the wire harness tab to the left of the generator? I have a few that don't have that tab that are early shround. Those are what I'm using on my 55 engines.
That is a nicely done engine! What did you use for the rear tin, an early "finger" tin?

[jays58s]

[FRK]

[1964 to 1954]

So the case is not correct but I was hoping no one would be able to read the number. The forward engine tin is correct with the finger. All tin has pressed nuts 54-55 not weld nuts. The engine that most of the parts came off was an August 54 (the case didn't meet my standards) so I believe the cylinder tin is correct without the welded nut cover pieces. If anyone knows when that changed let me know. I also cannot find any information on the correct color for the uterus. I believe they were black. The sticker will come off the voltage regulator and the pulley is a thick lip. I am in the market for last week September engine case as some day I will redo it. For now I needed the engine done. The engine shroud has two wire tabs. One on the right and another barely visible left of the carb. The shroud has pressed nuts. I'm bothered the carb isn't correct and is that obvious. I guess I'll contact Ed Fall and get the correct one. I wasn't aware they were that easy to spot.

[56samba]

Hi,
this could be a stupid question:
I think I read the complete topic but couldn't find any information about a 54/55 breastplate.
I'm asking, because I'm planning to build a May 54 enigne that should be really original. Already have most of the parts including a Uterus manifold, BR3 dizzy and all the other stuff.
On my engine, there can be found many 25hp parts, like the upper generator pulley, wire tube clamps, the tin behind the pulley, fuel pump tin and the rockers I think.
So there are are many tin parts that were used in the time before 1954 and also for a period in 54. The shoe boxes also have the three screw holes, so the breastplate must look definitly different than -55 and up. Does anybody know if it's identical to 25hp with the hole for the oil filler or looks this spot already like on normal 36 breastplates?

Thanks

[splitjunkie]

[56samba]

I have two of these manifolds and both of them are original paint and original to the engines. One is May 54 and the other one very early Jan. 55. Both of them are painted black. I guess a grey tone would give a nice accent, but black appears to be original.

[Suboval]

[Chrisisw]

Yesterday I tried to fit my thin lip crank case pulley to my 1954 engine.

However, when I fitted it to the engine, it was really hard to turn the engine by hand. After reviewing the later crank case pulley I removed from the engine, it seems as if the 'height' of the centre part of the thin lip pulley that goes into the engine case is higher than the 'height' of the centre part of the later pulley. Hope this description makes sense.

Can anyone confirm the difference in heights of the centre parts and if this could case the engine to turn hard by hand?

P.S. With the pulley removed, the engine turns really easy by hand.

[motofly196]

When you compare your later pulley to the earlier pulley, can you check the the snout that fits into the case with a micrometer? Is it possible there is corrosion on that part that is rubbing the case? I can't check mine right now, they are buried in the shed. But when I do I'll update what I find here.

[Chrisisw]

We compared both pulleys and the sizes were almost identical. However, after Ed machined the thin lip pulley one more time and removed some burrs from it, the pulley now fits like a glove.

So on with the rebuild...

[BASILISK]

I have a question about cylinder engine tin.
What is the difference between 54-55 and later oval tin?

[D-train]

[jays58s]

This is a picture of a 1955 Euro built June 10th with its original 36hp and only 28,800km. (Picture pulled from Tom Eitnier’s VVPS Facebook page). Note the fuel pump....

[Chrisisw]

I have seen several engines where the connector screws of the voltage regulators are screwed in from beneath. It makes sense as the D+ and DF wire connectors from the generator fit better.

Pictures borrowed from this thread:

Could anyone tell me how the voltage regulator connector screws should be fitted?

Thanks!

[sweden]

Iam i right that the fan shroud is same from June 1952 to august 1955?

It shall not have the bananapressing on rear side.

And the wire holder near the bult to generatorplate on front.

Not this bananapressing.

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[56samba]

I think non-banana stamping is 25hp only. On my June 54 engine, you can find the banana stamping. I'm going to post pictures of the disassembled engine including the domed cylinders

[janerick3]

[sweden]

My mars oval 1953 25 hp have the non banana shroud.

But i now bought an february 1954 30 hk engine and that have the non banana shroud to. But it may have been exchanged sometime.

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Me and my sons cars Typ1 -49 -50 -51 -52 -52 -53 -53 -54 -55 -55 -56 -56 -57 -58 cab -64 cab
T3 TriStar airride with Audi 1,8T engine and Porsche 996 gearbox.