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Patty B. Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2005 Posts: 2181 Location: Brampton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:04 am Post subject: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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According to this Forbe's story there is no replacement for the New New Beetle--Is that it for the iconic shape on our roads? If you call the New Beetle iconic. There aren't as many old Bug fans out there to merit a return to air cooled but I hope VW will surprise us with a different direction in electric or fuel cell and call it a BUG.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danroth/2018/02/11/20...issed/amp/ |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12467
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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The latest issue of motor trend magazine has an article telling everybody just exactly what’s on their (vws) mind.........more pics of the electric type 2 and promises to build |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15308 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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Volkswagen's time is up. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34012 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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vwracerdave wrote: |
Volkswagen's time is up. |
Maybe in the US, but worldwide their sales are up, and the highest of all manufacturers (10.4M). |
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APPLEGREENVW Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 2388 Location: Seekonk,Massachusetts USA
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Butcher Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2015 Posts: 1285 Location: Right Here
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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The insurance companies would kill it.
The car does not have any practical purpose and that is why it does not sell. RIP. |
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APPLEGREENVW Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 2388 Location: Seekonk,Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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KTPhil wrote: |
vwracerdave wrote: |
Volkswagen's time is up. |
Maybe in the US, but worldwide their sales are up, and the highest of all manufacturers (10.4M). |
Here are 3 examples of why.
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Butcher Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2015 Posts: 1285 Location: Right Here
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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And I would purchase a VW pickup. Saw several in Mexico. |
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sgnimj96 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2015 Posts: 49 Location: Melbourne, FL
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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Auto makers in the U.S. have been conspiring against VW since the 80's when vw started making diesel cars and small trucks that got 50mpg. |
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APPLEGREENVW Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 2388 Location: Seekonk,Massachusetts USA
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Butcher Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2015 Posts: 1285 Location: Right Here
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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They could, they just do not. |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69823 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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Yes, there are ways to avoid it, if they wanted to put in the effort.
Mercedes avoids it with their vans by shipping them over in kit form and assembling them here.
Ford does something similar too with their little Panelvans
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Ford imported all of its first generation Transit Connect models as passenger vehicles by including rear windows, rear seats, and rear seatbelts.
The vehicles are exported from Turkey, arrive in Baltimore, and are converted back into light trucks at [an American] facility by replacing the rear windows with metal panels and removing the rear seats and seatbelts. The removed parts are not shipped back to Turkey for reuse, but shredded and recycled in Ohio.
The process costs Ford hundreds of dollars per van but saves thousands in taxes." |
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Patty B. Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2005 Posts: 2181 Location: Brampton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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This is a nice looking little panel van! It looks VW too.
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79SuperVert Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 9758 Location: Elizabeth, NJ & La Isla Del Encanto
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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EverettB wrote: |
Yes, there are ways to avoid it, if they wanted to put in the effort.
Mercedes avoids it with their vans by shipping them over in kit form and assembling them here.
Ford does something similar too with their little Panelvans
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Ford imported all of its first generation Transit Connect models as passenger vehicles by including rear windows, rear seats, and rear seatbelts.
The vehicles are exported from Turkey, arrive in Baltimore, and are converted back into light trucks at [an American] facility by replacing the rear windows with metal panels and removing the rear seats and seatbelts. The removed parts are not shipped back to Turkey for reuse, but shredded and recycled in Ohio.
The process costs Ford hundreds of dollars per van but saves thousands in taxes." |
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That's just insane. I've been waiting years for someone to import a passenger van similar to the Caddy to the US (the Transit Connect is a little too large), and here is Ford actually doing that and then shredding the passenger components. _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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Patty B. wrote: |
This is a nice looking little panel van! It looks VW too.
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Zorba2.0 Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2017 Posts: 60 Location: Portage, MI
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:51 am Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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There were rumors that they were bringing the Amarok to Tennessee, but it ended up being the Atlas I too would love to have a VW Pickup. Might have to settle for the new Ranger or hold out for the new Microbus in 2022 |
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ps2375 Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2014 Posts: 2471 Location: Meridian,ID
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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Butcher wrote: |
The insurance companies would kill it.
The car does not have any practical purpose and that is why it does not sell. RIP. |
Then what explains all the people doing a single person commute is a truck/SUV? Other than stupidity. And insurance companies don't seem to be killing off any cars with 350+hp, and anything with less than 400hp and rwd isn't even considered "sporty".
How is a BRZ "practical"? VW just isn't going to build and bring to the US anything that really doesn't fit a certain corporate policy. And right now in the US, unless it's an SUV, it isn't worth bringing and trying to sell. |
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D Clymer Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2005 Posts: 2978 Location: Issaquah, WA
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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VW had planned to do a third generation of the "New Beetle" It would have been built on the MQB chassis and it would have been an excellent car. Unfortunately, the TDI situation made them pull the plug on several small volume but worthwhile projects. The Scirocco replacement, 3rd generation Beetle, Passat-sized Eos replacement, and 2nd generation Phaeton were all casualties of this belt-tightening. The Golf R400 was also nixed, and 2 door versions of the Polo and upcoming Audi A3 were also cancelled.
Some of these I care about more than others - I would have loved to see a 4th generation Scirocco, another New Beetle, and the Golf R400. But I'm just glad that so many of the VWs I like are still available and have a future. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12730 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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VW is huge in South America with offerings that made me envious. These sweet cars and pickups go back 20 or more years and sell like hotcakes.
VW does not have a problem - we do here in the USA and Canada! Our heads are stuck in the "protectionist" sand, we value our domestic fuel hogs over the practical fuel efficient cars the rest of the world is welcoming with open arms.
Our loss! |
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Butcher Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Is the New Beetle's time up? |
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Do not forget that we have pretty stringent crash and environmental laws.
I still say, if ANY manufacturer wanted to bring ANY vehicle in the USA, they could but there is a financial reason why they do not. |
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